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White House to Push Gun Control

Ockham said:
It's "farce", and guns are a tool and not made for the sole purpose of death. Just as a knife is not made for the sole purpose of death. Guns are used as a tool, for sport, at one time for hunting and survival, and are now used for competition, self defense and yes, for war too. To simplistically say guns have one purpose is obtuse. Apparently my work with you is just starting - just call me sensei.
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I'll call you senseless.
 
Ikari said:
So basically this is a "Won't someone PLEASE think of the children" argument?
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No, its at some point you have to just think about someone other than yourself argument. Thats the problem in this country, everyone just says, "what about me."
 
Goshin said:
You're right, it is unreasonable... because owning a car and driving are not Constitutional rights, so they are less important than gun rights.
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Goshin, you are totally merciless smacking people around with the Constitution like that. You know, the Constitution is considered a "weapon of mass destruction" to some people?:peace
 
tlmorg02 said:
Easy killer, .
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I don't think I appreciate that remark very much. My name isn't "killer". I could live without the condescension also.
 
Ockham said:
Goshin, you are totally merciless smacking people around with the Constitution like that. You know, the Constitution is considered a "weapon of mass destruction" to some people?:peace
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Oh snap! He got me!
 
Goshin said:
I don't think I appreciate that remark very much. My name isn't "killer". I could live without the condescension also.
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Your right sir, my apologies. Guns are a Constitutional right, just as slaves were. I want my slaves back please.
 
tlmorg02 said:
Your right sir, my apologies. Guns are a Constitutional right, just as slaves were. I want my slaves back please.
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I think your at the wrong forum then. Stormfront is always looking for new recruits I hear - so you may be in luck.
 
tlmorg02 said:
No, its at some point you have to just think about someone other than yourself argument. Thats the problem in this country, everyone just says, "what about me."
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So collectivist argument then? This isn't about one individual, it's about the rights and liberties of all individuals.
 
tlmorg02 said:
Your right sir, my apologies. Guns are a Constitutional right, just as slaves were. I want my slaves back please.
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:roll: :doh:ws:stooges:laughat:
 
Ikari said:
So collectivist argument then? This isn't about one individual, it's about the rights and liberties of all individuals.
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Its about something must be done to reduce violence in this country. Gun control will not do it, and you can't simply lock people up without some evidence that they are indeed disturbed. Yet, if that were your child would you think, oh well at least I have me.
 
Goshin said:
:roll: :doh:ws:stooges:laughat:
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Seriously, why the argument that they are a right and should remain untouched when we amend things that society evolves to realize wrong overtime?
 
tlmorg02 said:
Its about something must be done to reduce violence in this country. Gun control will not do it, and you can't simply lock people up without some evidence that they are indeed disturbed. Yet, if that were your child would you think, oh well at least I have me.
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Nope, I would be devastated. But being devastated in and of itself is not proper call to enact legislation against the rights and liberties of the individual. We ain't ever gonna be 100% safe. Doesn't exist. Particularly in a free society. Free is inherently dangerous. But I'd rather take the dangers than the alternative.
 
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What about the specifically purposed policies don't you like?
 
I knew the gun control idiocy was going to start soon. Kinda surprised it took this long, actually.

Never, ever let a good crisis go to waste.
 
no guts obama is leaving poor ms mccarthy to twist

McCarthy bill limits gun ammunition magazines to 10 bullets - National Democrat | Examiner.com

he doesn't need to make a speech, she's already introduced the bill

her husband was killed on the long island railroad in the infamous colin ferguson shooting of 93, and her son was wounded

gun control is just one of the dozens of major issues facing this country that the pusillanimous president refused to bespeak---like housing, global warming, cap and trade, the eu, sanctions vs iran, gitmo, terrorist trials, chinese currency, mideast peace talks, egypt, the bankruptcies facing so many of our states, public pensions, the stimulus...

instead he highlighted RACE TO THE TOP and CREDIT CARDS---LOL!

did you notice how he did NOT call out the hero, daniel hernandez, of the tucson tragedy?

oh, mr hernandez was there, right up in the gallery sitting next to michelle

the oversight was beyond out of the ordinary, it was outrageous

why?

why couldn't obama direct the attention of the cauci and the american people, like countless chief execs before, to this fine young man who risked everything to run TOWARDS the bullets to save his new boss?

if you think about it, you can really only come to one possible explanation

if obama was gonna move on gun control, he'd have moved

he may someday talk about it...

but he is, after all, running for reelection

take care, all

stay up
 
The Prof said:
no guts obama is leaving poor ms mccarthy to twist

McCarthy bill limits gun ammunition magazines to 10 bullets - National Democrat | Examiner.com

he doesn't need to make a speech, she's already introduced the bill

her husband was killed on the long island railroad in the infamous colin ferguson shooting of 93, and her son was wounded

gun control is just one of the dozens of major issues facing this country that the pusillanimous president refused to bespeak---like housing, global warming, cap and trade, the eu, sanctions vs iran, gitmo, terrorist trials, chinese currency, mideast peace talks, egypt, the bankruptcies facing so many of our states, public pensions, the stimulus...

instead he highlighted RACE TO THE TOP and CREDIT CARDS---LOL!

did you notice how he did NOT call out the hero, daniel hernandez, of the tucson tragedy?

oh, mr hernandez was there, right up in the gallery sitting next to michelle

the oversight was beyond out of the ordinary, it was outrageous

why?

why couldn't obama direct the attention of the cauci and the american people, like countless chief execs before, to this fine young man who risked everything to run TOWARDS the bullets to save his new boss?

if you think about it, you can really only come to one possible explanation

if obama was gonna move on gun control, he'd have moved

he may someday talk about it...

but he is, after all, running for reelection

take care, all

stay up
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Why doesn't that dumbass McCarthy bitch--anyone see the irony in the name?--introduce a bill to be tougher on criminals? But, oh no! They have rights.
 
MaggieD said:
IMO, even the staunchest supporter of gun rights, even the most governmentally-paranoid, should not object to keeping guns out of the hands of people who are mentally unstable. FOIDs issued and renewed by simply paying your fee...no background checks...

If legislation can be developed that plugs some holes, why would anyone oppose it??
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this is sort of like saying if you have nothing to hide why should you not consent to a cop searching your home without a warrant

I oppose anything that can be used to strip honest people of their rights. and history has proven that not only are there lots of scum that want to ban guns but this scum will pretend only want the next "reasonable step" which, once achieved, is the springboard for another "reasonable step" towards confiscation

since you proved earlier on this fourm how little you know of this issue, you really don't have the standing to tell us experts what is reasonable

violating privacy rights is what you are requiring-which would then have a chilling effect on people with ANY sort of mental illness

for example, after my mother in law died a slow death from brain cancer, my wife suffered temporary depression and sought treatment. now if I knew that seeking such treatment would cause her to lose gun rights,we probably would have been far less likely to have her see a shrink
 
tlmorg02 said:
Anyway...returning to adult land, using the automobile example is a farse, it is not designed solely for the purpose of death. But I needed to educate you in that small way.
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edify me as to your expertise in guns

when someone blathers that the only purpose of ANY firearm is to kill I realize I am dealing with the unlearned
 
StillBallin75 said:
In all fairness cars didn't exist at the time the Constitution was written.
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nor did torture with electricity. so if the cops hook your johnson up to a car battery that doesn't violate cruel and unusual punishment?
 
apdst said:
Why doesn't that dumbass McCarthy bitch--anyone see the irony in the name?--introduce a bill to be tougher on criminals? But, oh no! They have rights.
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McCarthy is the queen of the psychobabbling idiots-any logic she might have once been able to mustered was eviscerated by Collin Fergunson shooting her husband

you would think that pernicious twit would have realized that it was

1) illegal for Fergunson to have a gun in NYC without a permit
2) illegal for him to carry it concealed on that train
(we won't even get into first degree murder)

but him having a gun in a gun free zone was a guarantee of a high body count

that idiot wants to disarm honest people
 
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