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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    let us know when SCOTUS strikes down NYC's gun laws.

    let us know when SCOTUS strikes down ANY big cities gun restrictions that do not outright ban gun ownership (handguns or long-guns).
    that hasn't come before them. lets see what happens

    the evidence that continues to be developed is killing any argument that such restrictions have even a rational basis for their existence



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Show proof of that
    Anyone who has been in any gun control debate in the last decade has heard the numbers:

    A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.
    A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, a criminal assault or homicide, or an attempted or completed suicide than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.
    Journal of Trauma, 1998

    Stop Handgun Violence: The Facts

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Anyone who has been in any gun control debate in the last decade has heard the numbers:

    A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.
    A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, a criminal assault or homicide, or an attempted or completed suicide than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.
    Journal of Trauma, 1998

    Stop Handgun Violence: The Facts
    Thats your proof a site that wants to ban hand guns? They even include suicide.

    Nice try but not credible

    What no response to the links in post 916?
    Last edited by ptif219; 07-16-11 at 11:50 PM.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Anyone who has been in any gun control debate in the last decade has heard the numbers:

    A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.
    A gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting, a criminal assault or homicide, or an attempted or completed suicide than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense.
    Journal of Trauma, 1998

    Stop Handgun Violence: The Facts
    Kleck and Lott-both of whom started as gun restrictionists have rejected that bunk

    1998? You just cut your own throat

    you said to injure or kill in self defense

    if I drive off a perp with a gun or capture one (as I have) without shooting him I have protected myself

    limiting the study to actual discharges of weapons is biased and stupid

    how many times do cops shoot criminals as opposed to use a gun to arrest them without injury?



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    HAve you listened to these? I suggest you do, as they do not make your case.
    Yes they did. A member of the Obama administration mentioned operation gunrunner is explaining what is being done on the border. That is fast and furious. Obama knew and so did Holder.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes they did. A member of the Obama administration mentioned operation gunrunner is explaining what is being done on the border. That is fast and furious. Obama knew and so did Holder.
    Is being done, not that he had the details to the program. Look, the president as us to have a new program at the school. I hire a person to develop and implement the program. I know there is a program, but I don't know all the details. The college president knows even less. She may ask if it is progressing, but she does not get involved in all the details. She delegates that. That is how it works.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes they did. A member of the Obama administration mentioned operation gunrunner is explaining what is being done on the border. That is fast and furious. Obama knew and so did Holder.
    sounds like grounds for impeachment



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sounds like grounds for impeachment
    Only to the blind partisan.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only to the blind partisan.
    as opposed to the obama worshippers who refuse to see any fault in that idiot?



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