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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I already addressed that by stating the need for mental health legislation and involuntary mental evaluations. It seems YOU missed that, not me.,
    WTF.....

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    He lacks the capacity, as a president, to pass legislation impacting gun rights, when he does not have control of the house. Try to stop panicking.
    Even if Democrats still had control of both houses I doubt he would have even thought to initiate any anti-gun legislation. It's just such a charged issue that the public backlash would have been too great. Even when he did have control of both houses the Democrats were barely competent and shaping their own legislation.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I am not asserting they are drug cartels, I am asserting that people commit robbery to get drug money, people kill to get drug money, ..... Drug related in that way.
    Given that law enforcement data isn't typically collected or analyzed in a way that would allow those sorts of conclusions to be drawn, I'm highly suspicious of that claim. A lot of property crimes are committed for drug money, but a lot of property crimes are just committed for money in general.

    And no, the majority of murders aren't about drugs. They're domestic disputes. Most gang homicides, contrary to popular belief, aren't about drugs, either. They're about turf, respect, or revenge.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Even if Democrats still had control of both houses I doubt he would have even thought to initiate any anti-gun legislation. It's just such a charged issue that the public backlash would have been too great. Even when he did have control of both houses the Democrats were barely competent and shaping their own legislation.
    He's just handed a magnificent frying pan to the chefs in the Republican party so they can cook his goose and whip their diehards into a frothy of "the gummint gunna take my guns." Just look at this thread...

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Given that law enforcement data isn't typically collected or analyzed in a way that would allow those sorts of conclusions to be drawn, I'm highly suspicious of that claim.]

    And no, the majority of murders aren't about drugs. They're domestic disputes. Most gang homicides, contrary to your beliefs, aren't about drugs. They're about turf, respect, or revenge.
    So we need guns in our homes to protect against armed intruders....?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Given that law enforcement data isn't typically collected or analyzed in a way that would allow those sorts of conclusions to be drawn, I'm highly suspicious of that claim. A lot of property crimes are committed for drug money, but a lot of property crimes are just committed for money in general.

    And no, the majority of murders aren't about drugs. They're domestic disputes. Most gang homicides, contrary to popular belief, aren't about drugs, either. They're about turf, respect, or revenge.
    How many of the guys that you councilled carried guns, percentage-wise?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I know i'm going to get slammed for saying this, but I personally believe that gun ownership should be a privilege and is not a natural or human right. And I believe that upholding the professed right to gunownership just isn't worth the cost to society. That being said, it is just my personal opinion and I don't believe in taking away anyone's guns.
    Gun control increases crime because criminals don't have to worry about getting shot

    Liberal MSNBC says that more legal firearm ownership reduces crime rates Wintery Knight

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    The point you missed was that if he had been unable to buy a guy, he would still be in his parents house ranting about the government and masterbaiting to guns and ammo glock centerfolds.
    No he would have bought it on the street

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    He's just handed a magnificent frying pan to the chefs in the Republican party so they can cook his goose and whip their diehards into a frothy of "the gummint gunna take my guns." Just look at this thread...
    I think the first step should be looking at a better way to prevent straw purchases. This will have little or no effect on people who purchase and use guns legally.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Is he really? In what way?
    It stirs up the anti gun lobby and democrats will propose more laws to please them

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