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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Responsibility doesn't mean knowing all details.
    LOL!

    competence does

    and it's pretty hard to exercise responsibility sans competence

    hello

    holder's an idiot

    he's not the only one

    why did melson testify to house judiciary on july 4 that doj was trying to "limit his communication" with congress?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Responsibility doesn't mean knowing all details. It means holding those who work him accountable. Had Bush from the start held Brownie accountable, he'd have faced face less criticism. Sure, there is the flip side of folks like you and the prof, who will always criticise regardless of the facts. But they would be no more correct than you are.
    You make no sense. You ignore the fact Obama and Holder are trying to block the investigation

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You make no sense. You ignore the fact Obama and Holder are trying to block the investigation
    You have to prove their efforts and not merely say someone says they are. Again, your willingness to believe anythign is more the problem here than anything else.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have to prove their efforts and not merely say someone says they are. Again, your willingness to believe anythign is more the problem here than anything else.
    If you think they did not know you are mistaken. You are saying Obama is so incompetent that he did not know it was in the stimulus and he had no idea this was happening? Nice try but I think it was Obama's idea so he could spin it for gun control. The only thing that will satisfy you is if these criminals in the White House that did this confess

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If you think they did not know you are mistaken. You are saying Obama is so incompetent that he did not know it was in the stimulus and he had no idea this was happening? Nice try but I think it was Obama's idea so he could spin it for gun control. The only thing that will satisfy you is if these criminals in the White House that did this confess
    This is actually below anything a president would have or need operational details on. And Holder would more than likely only have a passing knowledge on. You want this to be their responsibility. I get that. But yu need much more than you have.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have to prove their efforts and not merely say someone says they are.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    As we knowing about this, we can't make the leap you are. Sorry.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Now lets see …. according to some here, no one of any substance knew anything about this whole affair …. yet it was just a year or so ago .. when Mrs. Clinton and Obama both were criticizing America for the number of guns that were supposingly showing up south of the border, even going so far as to blame the US for the violence taking place in Mexico telling us the number of guns that were from the US that were being confiscated .
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    Either this administration is just out and out lying about this, or it's the most inept, incompetent administration of all time. Just over a year ago .. they demonized America for the ease of US guns getting across the boarder … now we are shipping guns down there by the thousands and he knows nothing about it ??? A branch of our own government doing this without the knowledge of anyone in the upper echelon of the Obama administration?? If that is indeed true .. then we need to get rid of such murderous incompetence.... because only gawd knows what other weapons are leaving country without his knowledge.... or to whom they are going.

    Surveillance video obtained by CBS News shows suspected drug cartel suppliers carrying boxes of weapons to their cars at a Phoenix gun shop. The long boxes shown in the video being loaded in were AK-47-type assault rifles.

    So it turns out ATF not only allowed it - they videotaped it.

    Documents show the inevitable result:*The guns that ATF let go*began showing up at crime scenes in Mexico. And as ATF stood by watching thousands of weapons hit the streets... the Fast and Furious group supervisor noted the escalating Mexican violence.
    One e-mail noted, "958 killed in March 2010 ... most violent month since 2005." The same e-mail notes: "Our subjects purchased 359 firearms during March alone," including "numerous Barrett .50 caliber rifles."
    "I'm boots on the ground in Phoenix, telling you we've been doing it every day since I've been here," he said. "Here I am. Tell me I didn't do the things that I did. Tell me you didn't order me to do the things I did. Tell me it didn't happen. Now you have a name on it. You have a face to put with it. Here I am. Someone now, tell me it didn't happen."
    Agent Dodson and other sources say the gun walking strategy was approved all the way up to the Justice Department. The idea was to see where the guns ended up, build a big case and take down a cartel. And it was all kept secret from Mexico.

    Sen. Grassley began investigating after his office spoke to Dodson and a dozen other ATF sources -- all telling the same story.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    your willingness to believe anythign (sic) is more the problem here than anything else
    the opinions of an anonymous dp poster are more the problem than the sale by the united states dept of justice of thousands of assault rifles to cruel and crazed mexican drug cartels?

    LOL!

    think much?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And Holder would more than likely only have a passing knowledge on
    the ag is unaware of the movement of thousands of assault weapons involving THREE of his agencies, the fbi AND the dea AND the atf?

    LOL!

    what an idiot

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