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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    All the people on here that a oppose gun restriction laws have never endured a tragedy that involves the death of a child, friend, or family member as a direct result of POOR gun restriction laws.
    You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

    Why do Americans feel the need to carry Ak47 assault rifles, Uzi's, and M4A1's?
    You fail to understand the issue. One need not show a need in order to exercise a right.

    I agree that using them for sporting is completely ok, but we all know 50% of people that own firearms do not lock them up properly to avoid theft and accidents with chilidren.
    You cannot possibly show this to be true.

    Its amazing how easy some kids can buy guns, and that includes semi-automatic guns on the streets these days..
    All of which is illegal. How do you propose w emake it more illegal?

    Republicans complain that making it hard to buy a gun, is just another stupid Obama policy.
    They are, of course, correct. Making it harder for the law abiding to get a gun doesn't make it harder for a criminal to get a gun.

    May I ask these people what THEIR solution is?
    Enforce the laws we have now. Punish criminals to the full extent of the law.

    Its pretty easy to understand that our founding fathers did not mean Army-Grade assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons when they wrote "the right to bare arms".
    They meant to preserve the effectiveness of the militia. To do that, the right to keep and beard arms suitable for this purpose were protected.
    Thus, "army-grade assault rifles" are EXACTLY the kind of "arms" protected by the 2nd; it is impossible to soundly argue otherwise.

    Times have changed, and that calls for gun regulations to change. Pretty simple to understand really, if your not an arrogant red neck republican.
    Ah - the ad hom, final refuge of those who have run out of talking points.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Evidence isn't ours on some message board to compile, it is for congress to gather. And from the look of redaction, and obfuscation coming from the administration, and Justice Dept. I would say that a reasonable person at this point would have to conclude that it doesn't look good for either Obama, or Holder.

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    J, if you're going to make claim, it is yours to present. Sorry. And your willingness to accept anything only speaks to your bais and grasping at straws.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You refuse to accept the evidence. You are defending the fact the Obama administration made gun dealers sell weapons to known criminals which is the mexican drug cartels. You should be outraged not defending them.

    So the blood of people killed with these weapons like the border patrol are on Obama's hands
    You haven't presented any evidence. And no where did I say the program was a good one. You're using the same silly illogic to state my position as you use to convict Obama without evidence.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You haven't presented any evidence. And no where did I say the program was a good one. You're using the same silly illogic to state my position as you use to convict Obama without evidence.
    Yes I showed it was in the stimulus and that Holder talked about it in a speech in 2009 in Mexico. It was known in the Obama administration.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes I showed it was in the stimulus and that Holder talked about it in a speech in 2009 in Mexico. It was known in the Obama administration.
    1. No one denys it is in the stimulus. So, that is not evidence that either Holder or Obama knew the details.

    2. Read what Holder said in 2009. He doesn't say anything that would suggest he knew the details. In fact, if you actually read his comments, he seems to be speaking of something else entirely.

    So, no, you have not presented any actual evidence of what is actually being questioned. It is not knowledge of the name of the program, not that it was funded, but whether they knew the actual details of the program. You have to show they knew the actual details. You have not done this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have to show they knew the actual details.
    a lack of knowledge of the movement of thousands of assault rifles to mexican drug cartels is the administration's defense?

    LOL!

    what an idiot---holder, i mean

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    1. No one denys it is in the stimulus. So, that is not evidence that either Holder or Obama knew the details.

    2. Read what Holder said in 2009. He doesn't say anything that would suggest he knew the details. In fact, if you actually read his comments, he seems to be speaking of something else entirely.

    So, no, you have not presented any actual evidence of what is actually being questioned. It is not knowledge of the name of the program, not that it was funded, but whether they knew the actual details of the program. You have to show they knew the actual details. You have not done this.
    Your spin shows you are to partisan to see the truth.

    Obama knew what democrats put in the stimulus and Holder spoke on it because he knew what was happening. This is a disgusting display of politicians breaking the law.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Your spin shows you are to partisan to see the truth.

    Obama knew what democrats put in the stimulus and Holder spoke on it because he knew what was happening. This is a disgusting display of politicians breaking the law.
    Again think. You too J. Do you really believe he had all the details? Come on now, be honest. Try.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Your spin shows you are to partisan to see the truth.
    did you mean "too" partisan?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You jump to too many conclusions based on questionable sources
    the acting director of the atf?

    LOL!

    appointed by barack the slasher hussein himself?

    a questionable source?

    while holder---whose fbi AND dea AND atf were busy running a thousand guns a thousand miles into mexico---says he DIDN'T KNOW, model of CREDIBILITY?

    what an idiot...

    holder, i mean
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