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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't have to prove the negative. You have to prove he knew. Logically, it's unlikely that he did. Presidents don't get every detail on every program. No human could possibiliy handle that much knowledge.
    It was Obama's stimulus bill. If democrats put that in it was with Obama's approval

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It was Obama's stimulus bill. If democrats put that in it was with Obama's approval
    You're not paying attention. This does not mean he knew the details.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't have to prove the negative. You have to prove he knew. Logically, it's unlikely that he did. Presidents don't get every detail on every program. No human could possibiliy handle that much knowledge.
    That's understandable. Thank you.

    This whole scenario is convoluted and unfortunate..

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're not paying attention. This does not mean he knew the details.
    So the dems put that in without Obama approval?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That's understandable. Thank you.

    This whole scenario is convoluted and unfortunate..
    I do agree it is unfortunate, and I would add someone shold be held accountable. And I do think there was a resignation, someone accepting responsibility. If someone higher should, we need evidence of knowledge of and of green lighting based on that knowledge of such a poorly planned and excuted effort.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So the dems put that in without Obama approval?
    They could have. But it is unlikely either knew all the details.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have to prove Holder knew the details, and was an active participant in desigining and running it
    LOL!

    whether he designed the operation or not, his dept executed it

    hello

    holder says he didn't know

    but melson testified in house oversight that the program was ongoing thruout doj, involving the fbi, dea AS WELL AS the atf

    that'd only make the ag an idiot

    but hey, at least no one said "heckuva job, homie"
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They could have. But it is unlikely either knew all the details.
    Nice cop out. Obama is responsible for the ATF and holder and the stimulus bill. he knew or else he is a total incompetent that knows nothing about being president. I showed Holder knew that also means Obama knew.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    whether he designed the operation or not, his dept executed it

    hello

    holder says he didn't know

    but melson testified in house oversight that the program was ongoing thruout doj, involving the fbi, dea AS WELL AS the atf

    that'd only make the ag an idiot

    but hey, at least no one said "heckuva job, homie"
    Holder knew and said so in a speech

    Holder bragged about Operation Gunrunner in 2009 | Barbara Hollingsworth | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    But in the next two weeks, the White House will unveil a new gun-control effort in which it will urge Congress to strengthen current laws, which now allow some mentally unstable people, such as alleged Arizona shooter Jared Loughner, to obtain certain assault weapons, in some cases without even a background check.
    we need national standards on how people who have been deemed unfit to own a firearm, are kept in a database and how their right to own weapons again is restored.

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