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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Fast and furious will be used against anything Obama tries. Obama and Holder are not out of the woods yet on that
    I have idea what you're talking about. Are saying made up **** will be used? I'm sure that is true. I have found both parties like doing that, sadly.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have idea what you're talking about. Are saying made up **** will be used? I'm sure that is true. I have found both parties like doing that, sadly.
    So you know nothing about the fast and furious plan where the ATF forced gun dealers to sell to mexico drug cartels? The investigations are on going and the congress may still bring charges.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you know nothing about the fast and furious plan where the ATF forced gun dealers to sell to mexico drug cartels? The investigations are on going and the congress may still bring charges.
    Yes, I do, but what was Obama's role in that? Did he come up with the plan? Say good job Brownie when he heard about? What exactly?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    We dont know actually, DoJ is stonewalling and the testifying ATF agent is contradicting testimony of DoJ officials about who knew what and when. It seems that certain officials in the FBI and Homeland Security were told of details as well, depending on if you believe the primary witness.

    Whatever happened to the buck stops here, BR?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    All the people on here that a oppose gun restriction laws have never endured a tragedy that involves the death of a child, friend, or family member as a direct result of POOR gun restriction laws. Why do Americans feel the need to carry Ak47 assault rifles, Uzi's, and M4A1's? I agree that using them for sporting is completely ok, but we all know 50% of people that own firearms do not lock them up properly to avoid theft and accidents with chilidren. Its amazing how easy some kids can buy guns, and that includes semi-automatic guns on the streets these days, probably as easy as buying a pack of cigarettes in some poor areas of cities.

    Republicans complain that making it hard to buy a gun, is just another stupid Obama policy. May I ask these people what THEIR solution is? Should we continue to allow our youth to obtain dangerous firearms so they can perform a video game sequence, that chilidren can legally buy now thanks to a wonderful recent ruling by our very stupid law makers?

    Its pretty easy to understand that our founding fathers did not mean Army-Grade assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons when they wrote "the right to bare arms". Times have changed, and that calls for gun regulations to change. Pretty simple to understand really, if your not an arrogant red neck republican.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have [no] idea what you're talking about.
    of course not, it hasn't appeared on whitehouse.gov, comedy central or in the sydney morning herald

    LOL!

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    concerning f&f, we know that doj said holder and obama did not know what was going on and pressured melson at atf to quit

    melson refused, said he was eager to testify, the white house backed off

    melson testifed on july 4 in house oversight that the fbi and dea were involved in f&f, unbeknownst to atf

    it appears clear this was a doj-at-large operation, involving many of the dept's agencies, and NOT simply a rogue-like effort on the part of a troubled atf

    stay tuned

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I do, but what was Obama's role in that? Did he come up with the plan? Say good job Brownie when he heard about? What exactly?
    That is what is being investigated. As President he is responsible for these programs. His administration will be responsible and Holder is in big trouble.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    All the people on here that a oppose gun restriction laws have never endured a tragedy that involves the death of a child, friend, or family member as a direct result of POOR gun restriction laws. Why do Americans feel the need to carry Ak47 assault rifles, Uzi's, and M4A1's? I agree that using them for sporting is completely ok, but we all know 50% of people that own firearms do not lock them up properly to avoid theft and accidents with chilidren. Its amazing how easy some kids can buy guns, and that includes semi-automatic guns on the streets these days, probably as easy as buying a pack of cigarettes in some poor areas of cities.

    Republicans complain that making it hard to buy a gun, is just another stupid Obama policy. May I ask these people what THEIR solution is? Should we continue to allow our youth to obtain dangerous firearms so they can perform a video game sequence, that chilidren can legally buy now thanks to a wonderful recent ruling by our very stupid law makers?

    Its pretty easy to understand that our founding fathers did not mean Army-Grade assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons when they wrote "the right to bare arms". Times have changed, and that calls for gun regulations to change. Pretty simple to understand really, if your not an arrogant red neck republican.
    Laws will not stop the illegal sales on the streets. Enforce the laws on the books before you make new laws

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Operation gunrunner was in the stimulus bill

    The Stimulation Of Murder - Investors.com

    The ATF's gun-running disaster was funded in the stimulus bill. Think about all the criminal and drug cartel jobs saved or created. And our attorney general once bragged to a Mexican audience about implementing it.

    This could be, no pun intended, the proverbial smoking gun in a growing administration scandal that deserves as much mainstream media attention as Iran-Contra or Watergate.

    Right there in the stimulus bill that no one in Congress bothered to read is $10 million for Project Gunrunner (aka Operation Fast and Furious), which resulted in the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and increased drug cartel violence.

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