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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by chuck schmidt View Post
    Bullseye is a ball powder if I recollect properly. I've never used it but a friend used to come over and reload with me and he did. I have always used Dupont extruded powders. Who cares? Do you have an encyclopedic knowledge of arcane reloading info? Good for you. My experience is probably more limited than yours. I reload for my personal shotguns and rifles for fun, not a gun obsession. When it gets to be a chore and boring I walk away until next time it calls me or until hunting season. If you have never had a boring moment playing with guns we're probably not on the same wavelength. No doubt you believe in armed civilians walking around in public loaded down with handguns with which to shoot other people?
    basic knowledge

    231 has a sharper recoil than bullseye but is cleaner 231 5.7-5.8 grains, Bullseye around 5.2

    yeah I believe honest people ought to be able to defend themselves against those who disobey gun laws, laws against rape and murder

    you apparently are of the deluded opinion that banning honest people from carrying defensive handguns will prevent people who are already banned from owing any type of firearm from using them criminally.

    shooting other people is not necessarily wrong-I know, I shot a mugger once

    not pleasant but the best alternative available to me



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I am an ex-cop, and I wouldn't be the only one to tell you that a gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is certainly an issue there, and lack of adequate health care is part of that issue. However, that's another thread.

    However, that is exactly what you are aruging here. And it's not "Health Care" per se, but rather, Mental Health Care. Can you show from your assertion that the availibility of a gun was the cause of the suicide? Or is it that insufficent Mental Health Care of depression led these people to comtemplate killing themselves, and if it were'nt gun, it would be a filled bath tub, or a bottle of Tylenol, and cough syrup.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    basic knowledge
    So what? I have nothing to prove to you. If I had given the chemical composition you would have fault-found. Your question was not intended as a discussion of reloading.

    231 has a sharper recoil than bullseye but is cleaner 231 5.7-5.8 grains, Bullseye around 5.2
    Fine, but at the moment I'm not interested. A couple of years ago someone suggested that I change a .270 load from IMR4831 to RL22 (?) to overcome a pressure issue. I intend to try that when I get around to it, but not yet.
    yeah I believe honest people ought to be able to defend themselves against those who disobey gun laws, laws against rape and murder
    From which you doubtless imply that those of us who disagree with your position are in support of rapists and murderers? Sorry but we disagree.

    you apparently are of the deluded opinion that banning honest people from carrying defensive handguns will prevent people who are already banned from owing any type of firearm from using them criminally.
    Deluded because I do not share your opinion? Because you claim to be a lawyer how about you answer a skill testing question - a real low-level one just to stop your blood pressure from rising. In the classic story of the 5 wise men hanging on to an animal,
    1. What species of animal,
    2. What were they holding,
    3. What religion were they, and
    4. What is the moral of the story?

    shooting other people is not necessarily wrong-I know, I shot a mugger once

    not pleasant but the best alternative available to me
    That is not something we needed to know, is it? I discern that you are quite proud of the fact, no?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    I grew up in a household that had guns and I am also trained in how to use them, but honestly I don't see the point. I'm not anti-gun or whatever they're calling it these days down south, but you can't stop the government with guns. A home invader maybe, but the 2nd amendment isn't about home invasion, it's about government.

    If this is about a well trained militia - good luck. If the civilian population ever has to fight the government, the only hope in hell that they have is that the military takes their side, otherwise you're dust. No guns you have will stop tanks, aircraft, or heavy artillery.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    if someone has cancer you don't blow him up with a bomb-you remove the cancer



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if someone has cancer you don't blow him up with a bomb-you remove the cancer
    Are you suggesting that you would take up arms against a lawful government in America?

    I see you haven't answered my skill-testing question yet, counsel. Googling it, are you?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by chuck schmidt View Post
    Are you suggesting that you would take up arms against a lawful government in America?

    I see you haven't answered my skill-testing question yet, counsel. Googling it, are you?
    I don't feel a need to answer someone who have been proven ignorant on this subject

    and we await your solution to all the handgun problems you seem to think exists

    so tell us, how are you going to rid america of that manhood substitution called handguns so that criminals are disarmed



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't feel a need to answer someone who have been proven ignorant on this subject
    You claim to be a lawyer yet you cannot answer a diorect question about one of the oldest common-law traditions?

    so tell us, how are you going to rid america of that manhood substitution called handguns so that criminals are disarmed
    Gee, my position seems to have somewhat exorcised you? Too bad.

    I am not going to get rid of any problems. As far as gun problems are concerned, that's why we have laws and police.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Dood... That will be used again and again......

    Say, Rev, aint' it remarkable how many people we have around who don't seem to understand basic tactics?

    They don't seem to get that if you're more heavily armed than the other guy, it actually reduces the odds of the other guy trying anything, all else being equal. Nor the psychological advantage that being better armed gives you if it does come down to shooting.

    I mostly use 30 round mags in my AK47, but I have a few short mags for prone shooting. Some times it's good to get down close to the dirt. What's your preferences, mag-size-wise, for the AK?

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