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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We actually have an army now. We do. They don't run through town and gather up males to meet the native threat, or move folks to the fort. Times really have changed. Our founding fathers could not have seen this far into the future, but it is foolish not to recognize that the world is different.

    The courts have ruled more than a few times that weapons can be regulated, and as long as I've been alive, there have been regulations. So, that horse has left the barn.
    The SCOTUS gave us the Dred Scott decision, too.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

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    The SCOTUS gave us the Dred Scott decision, too.
    That's true. But when something is ruled one way over and over, there is some reasonable acceptance that this is the case.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    DC vs Heller may be the first step to injecting some Constitutionality into what has been severe violations of the 2A. The horse just might come back to the barn...

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    DC vs Heller may be the first step to injecting some Constitutionality into what has been severe violations of the 2A. The horse just might come back to the barn...
    It might, but I wouldn't count on it.

    BTW, I dn't think anything has been unconstitutional about so far.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post

    BTW, I dn't think anything has been unconstitutional about so far.

    Yeah, that doesn't surprise me that you'd think that.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's true. But when something is ruled one way over and over, there is some reasonable acceptance that this is the case.
    No it doesn't.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, that doesn't surprise me that you'd think that.
    Maybe not. But that doesn't make me wrong. This has been debated for decades. It's not new. If we wanted, we both could pull up scholars who say completely different things. if those who study this can come up with differing opinions, is it really surprising that two novices would disagree.

    That said, the laws will be the laws, and the couorts will rule on them. That is how this works here. I'm OK with that.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No it doesn't.
    Doesn't what? Or did you mean there isn't?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Maybe not. But that doesn't make me wrong. This has been debated for decades. It's not new. If we wanted, we both could pull up scholars who say completely different things. if those who study this can come up with differing opinions, is it really surprising that two novices would disagree.

    That said, the laws will be the laws, and the couorts will rule on them. That is how this works here. I'm OK with that.
    Yup, and if DC vs Heller is any indication, a lot of cities and states with excessively restrictive laws are going to get pushed back in the near future.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup, and if DC vs Heller is any indication, a lot of cities and states with excessively restrictive laws are going to get pushed back in the near future.
    They may be, and I'm OK with that. But that isn't the main point. The point is they can be regulated. I suspect the line will change from time to time. That's the nature of our country. And I'm OK with that as well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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