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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The only one I question, because I don't quite understand it, is a law that would outlaw all guns if a biometric gun was ever created. Other than that, and being allowed to buy something you can't legally use (perhaps not let you buy it?), I don't see anything too oppressive.

    And there is your problem....


    Brian aitken would disagree with you.

    Gun owner Brian Aitken is released from prison after Gov. Christie commutes sentence | NJ.com





    also:

    b. The Legislature, therefore, declares:

    It is within the public interest, and vital to the safety of our families and children, for New Jersey to take the bold and innovative step of fostering the development of personalized handguns by firearms manufacturers. To accomplish this objective, the Legislature determines that it should enact legislation designed to further enhance firearms safety by requiring that, within a specified period of time after the date on which these new personalized handguns are deemed to be available for retail sales purposes, no other type of handgun shall be sold or offered for sale by any registered or licensed firearms dealer in this State.



    The fact you see nothing wrong with this overly oppressive laws, is stunning.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Lots of things are dangerous and bad. I don't call for them to be illegal, but I do talk about being aware of their dangers.
    so you're carrying on for your usual hundred posts about bupkis

    typical

    Why would this bother you so much?
    no bother

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

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    And there is your problem....


    Brian aitken would disagree with you.

    Gun owner Brian Aitken is released from prison after Gov. Christie commutes sentence | NJ.com





    also:

    b. The Legislature, therefore, declares:

    It is within the public interest, and vital to the safety of our families and children, for New Jersey to take the bold and innovative step of fostering the development of personalized handguns by firearms manufacturers. To accomplish this objective, the Legislature determines that it should enact legislation designed to further enhance firearms safety by requiring that, within a specified period of time after the date on which these new personalized handguns are deemed to be available for retail sales purposes, no other type of handgun shall be sold or offered for sale by any registered or licensed firearms dealer in this State.



    The fact you see nothing wrong with this overly oppressive laws, is stunning.
    Of course he doesn't. It takes hand guns out of the hands of the poor and perhaps even the middle class depending on price of these personalized guns. To 2nd amendment proponents and other Hoplophobes they know an outright ban may not work but trying to severely restrict the hell out of it with tax stamps like done in the past, banning weapons made after a certian date, requiring someone to jump through all sorts of hoops just to exercise a constitutional right, or in this case requiring that only a certian type of hand gun can be made. The 2nd amendment proponents and other Hoplophobes know that trying to get a unconstitutional law overturned one must go through a legal circus that make take years or decades depending on the political make up of the S.C. Like all Hoplophobes if they can not directly subvert the 2nd amednment they will try either the back door approach or they use baby steps to accomplish their goal.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    And there is your problem....


    Brian aitken would disagree with you.

    Gun owner Brian Aitken is released from prison after Gov. Christie commutes sentence | NJ.com





    also:

    b. The Legislature, therefore, declares:

    It is within the public interest, and vital to the safety of our families and children, for New Jersey to take the bold and innovative step of fostering the development of personalized handguns by firearms manufacturers. To accomplish this objective, the Legislature determines that it should enact legislation designed to further enhance firearms safety by requiring that, within a specified period of time after the date on which these new personalized handguns are deemed to be available for retail sales purposes, no other type of handgun shall be sold or offered for sale by any registered or licensed firearms dealer in this State.



    The fact you see nothing wrong with this overly oppressive laws, is stunning.
    I'm not sure what you think your article proves. He was carrying around wepaons in the trunk of his car? And what dos that have to do with what you quote?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not sure what you think your article proves. He was carrying around wepaons in the trunk of his car? And what dos that have to do with what you quote?

    So he deserved 7 years in prison? and no, that's not what he was doing.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So he deserved 7 years in prison? and no, that's not what he was doing.
    That's a problem with the penalty. The problem he had has driving around with all those weapons.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's a problem with the penalty. The problem he had has driving around with all those weapons.
    Why is that a problem?

    I have a friend that works as a gunsmith for a local gunshop. Part of his job is to take newly completed custom guns and zero them at the range. Sometimes, he invites me to go with him. Between his guns and my guns, we'll show up at the range with 20+ guns in the truck.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's a problem with the penalty. The problem he had has driving around with all those weapons.
    He has the right to keep and bear arms.The fact he would be punished for it is a travesty of justice and a blatant violation of his rights.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is that a problem?

    I have a friend that works as a gunsmith for a local gunshop. Part of his job is to take newly completed custom guns and zero them at the range. Sometimes, he invites me to go with him. Between his guns and my guns, we'll show up at the range with 20+ guns in the truck.
    Apparently there was a law against it. Agree with it or not, he shoudl eb aware of the law. Secondly, I have heard no argument that this was job related. If it were, the court case might have gone differently. Who knows. We can't just make up excuses for him. Nor do I think it is oppressive so say don't drive around with a bunch of guns in your trunk. Seems like something most wouldn't be doing anyway.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Apparently there was a law against it. Agree with it or not, he shoudl eb aware of the law. Secondly, I have heard no argument that this was job related. If it were, the court case might have gone differently. Who knows. We can't just make up excuses for him. Nor do I think it is oppressive so say don't drive around with a bunch of guns in your trunk. Seems like something most wouldn't be doing anyway.
    Just because a law, is a law, doesn't make it right. Ever hear of the Fugitive Slave Law?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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