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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As I've said countlessly, not at the moment. But if someone suggests something reasonable, I'd listen.
    reasonable

    def. 1 If we could ban guns and not lose the senate or the white house in 2012 it would be reasonable

    def. 2- Any restrictions that would not have negative political ramifications



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually no, that has not been proven. The number given so far don't supoport it. and we have to have objective documented proof of how many don't end in shooting, personal reporting is too easily skewed.

    VPC - A Deadly Myth: Women, Handguns, and Self-Defense
    The VPC-OMG you just killed your argument

    these are the morons who

    1) told the media in 1988 to deliberately confuse the public as to the difference between machine guns and semi autos

    2) claimed that centerfire rifles with a scope were "sniper rifles" (in reality any rifle suitable for shooting a deer at 400M is equally useful for shooting a human which is why the military and police use the same rifles that hunters use in many cases)

    3) pushed the ban on normal cap magazines and when it passed whined when makers scaled down their pistols to hold only 10 round magazines rather than normal capacity magazines

    VPC is a dishonest conspiracy against gun rights



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    reasonable

    def. 1 If we could ban guns and not lose the senate or the white house in 2012 it would be reasonable

    def. 2- Any restrictions that would not have negative political ramifications
    really shouldn't try to speak for others. I don't want or believe that guns will ever be banned.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The VPC-OMG you just killed your argument

    these are the morons who

    1) told the media in 1988 to deliberately confuse the public as to the difference between machine guns and semi autos

    2) claimed that centerfire rifles with a scope were "sniper rifles" (in reality any rifle suitable for shooting a deer at 400M is equally useful for shooting a human which is why the military and police use the same rifles that hunters use in many cases)

    3) pushed the ban on normal cap magazines and when it passed whined when makers scaled down their pistols to hold only 10 round magazines rather than normal capacity magazines

    VPC is a dishonest conspiracy against gun rights
    Doesn't matter. There are plenty of sites siting very similar stats.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    So you're arguing that 68,000 (the lowest lowball figure, from a government study), is a SMALLER number than 30,000?

    Must be that new math.
    Nope. I'm arguing that there are no objective statistics that are not based on anything more substantive than stories that are not confirmed.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't want or believe that guns will ever be banned.
    exactly, you just want people to stop believing guns are MAGICAL

    LOL!

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. I'm arguing that there are no objective statistics that are not based on anything more substantive than stories that are not confirmed.
    Ah. So I take it that any statistics, even those from a government study, will be ignored if they disagree with your agenda?

    Got it.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ah. So I take it that any statistics, even those from a government study, will be ignored if they disagree with your agenda?

    Got it.

    Not ignored. But it matters how they come about. There is a difference between subjective numbers and objective numbers. Somoen saying something happened is equal to something we can prove happened.

    So no, you don't have it.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not ignored. But it matters how they come about. There is a difference between subjective numbers and objective numbers. Somoen saying something happened is equal to something we can prove happened.

    So no, you don't have it.

    Then neither do you, old chap. You've given us nothing but opinions, and links to discredited anti-gun organizations.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not ignored. But it matters how they come about. There is a difference between subjective numbers and objective numbers. Somoen saying something happened is equal to something we can prove happened.

    So no, you don't have it.
    Says the same member who just up the scroll quoted the VPC as a source, then said there are plenty of other cites citing similar facts. That he could not locate. Goshin you hit the nail on the proverbial head!

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