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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Makes sense I suppose, but then again we only know someone is a murderer after they kill somebody.
    Ok, let me express my bafflement. Conservatives are against legalizing drugs because they can kill people, but guns are ok. Why the pick and choose your instruments of death.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Makes sense I suppose, but then again we only know someone is a murderer after they kill somebody.
    Not true. Generally speaking, it's a progression to murder, first with assaults, then weapons offenses, and then aggravated assaults and/or robberies involving that firearm. Most murderers had fairly substantial juvenile and adult records before they killed someone, usually with specific types of offenses.

    When I worked for the gang unit, the identities of our shooters were never big surprises.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Ok, let me express my bafflement. Conservatives are against legalizing drugs because they can kill people, but guns are ok. Why the pick and choose your instruments of death.
    Because drugs aren't going to help you much if an armed gunman invades your home. Conservatives understand that cops cannot protect you, cops can only respond to the scene of the crime, usually in time to clean up your remains. Self-protection is a personal responsibility (and right).

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So what? Obama can't any sort of gun control legislation through a Republican dominated senate. He can be as anti-gun as he likes. He has zero tangible power in this area.
    Dominated House. The Senate still has a slight majority in the Senate.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    My bad, thanks for the catch.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No Obama has a history of being anti gun
    Got a source for that buddy? A speech or anything that supports such a claim? Even if he were anti-gun personally he would never express those sentiments publicly or in terms of policy.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Because drugs aren't going to help you much if an armed gunman invades your home. Conservatives understand that cops cannot protect you, cops can only respond to the scene of the crime, usually in time to clean up your remains. Self-protection is a personal responsibility (and right).
    While liberals would argue that the existence of such situations would be drastically decreased if guns weren't as freely proliferated as they are now.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Because drugs aren't going to help you much if an armed gunman invades your home. Conservatives understand that cops cannot protect you, cops can only respond to the scene of the crime, usually in time to clean up your remains. Self-protection is a personal responsibility (and right).
    I know what you mean. I was at the OK Corral the other day and tried to throw heroin needles at these bandits, didn't work.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Gun laws will mean people buy guns on the streets and only criminals will have guns. I have guns and a concealed weapons license but I fear Obama will try to take that away. it does not mean he will succeed but it does mean stirring up the issue

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    So you think it is bad to stop mentally imbalanced people from obtaining assault rifles?
    Loughner used a Glock,nor was he as insane as people believe him to be.

    Loughner researched lethal injection before Tucson shooting, sources say
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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