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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I want the most effective piece of weaponry I can hold in my hands that will protect me and my family from those who wish me harm... the number of rounds a weapon holds attributes to that effectiveness.

    so no, no limit what so ever. When I lived in NM, I had an AK-47 variant, with a 100 round drum. For some odd reason, that drum did not make me go on a kill crazy rampage, perhaps it was defective.
    I would just say I wouldn't overestimate the ability of a weapon to save you. If you feel you need an AK-47, I'd suggest you may well be overreacting, and more a danger to others than actually protecting yourself. Few actually need an AK-47.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would just say I wouldn't overestimate the ability of a weapon to save you. If you feel you need an AK-47, I'd suggest you may well be overreacting, and more a danger to others than actually protecting yourself. Few actually need an AK-47.


    I was living on a 30 acre ranch outside of bernalillo, on more than one occasion, the AK came in handy, and was not the optimal weapon of choice (an m4 variant would havce been better), but it sure beat a 6 round pistol, or a short range shot gun.


    Ok well thanks for the lay persons opinion, as one who has been a carbine and pistol CQB, home defense instructor, and still trains, I'll defer to those less ignorant on the topic. thanks though for your input.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I was living on a 30 acre ranch outside of bernalillo, on more than one occasion, the AK came in handy, and was not the optimal weapon of choice (an m4 variant would havce been better), but it sure beat a 6 round pistol, or a short range shot gun.


    Ok well thanks for the lay persons opinion, as one who has been a carbine and pistol CQB, home defense instructor, and still trains, I'll defer to those less ignorant on the topic. thanks though for your input.
    Sorry. I don't buy it. People live everywhere just fine and safe without an Ak-47. it's a serious overreaction, and this causes some concern about judgment.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sorry. I don't buy it. People live everywhere just fine and safe without an Ak-47. it's a serious overreaction, and this causes some concern about judgment.



    Poachers. part of the job was to go out and patrol the property on an atv looking for poachers, as the owner of the property can be held liable for illegal hunting activities on your land. What would you arm yourself riding out on the land on patrol for folks illegally hunting on your or your boss's land?

    Please do tell.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Poachers. part of the job was to go out and patrol the property on an atv looking for poachers, as the owner of the property can be held liable for illegal hunting activities on your land. What would you arm yourself riding out on the land on patrol for folks illegally hunting on your or your boss's land?

    Please do tell.
    Depends on the terrain. If it was open prarie with long vistas having little cover, I'd want a Rem700 30-06 boltgun with a good scope. If it was wooded terrain, especially with heavy underbrush and limited line of sight, the M4 or AK47 would be preferable.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you want no limit on rounds in a magazine at all? You only want the limits of technology to decide that?

    Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sorry. I don't buy it. People live everywhere just fine and safe without an Ak-47. it's a serious overreaction, and this causes some concern about judgment.
    Do you have any experience in dealing with armed criminals? I do.

    If a situation turns into a gunfight, the last thing you want is to be MINIMALLY-armed. Overkill is much preferred. In fact, being heavily armed tends to minimize the liklihood that there will be a gunfight at all... this is one of the reasons that when cops turn out to arrest a perp considered "Armed and dangerous", they don't send one deputy with a single sidearm... they send a tactically-armed team.

    If I confront an armed tresspasser on my land, he is less likely to escalate the situation if he sees that I am more heavily armed than he is.

    This is really just basic tactics. Very very basic.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Since I consider myself a law-abiding citizen, I should of course not be allowed to arm myself to protect me and my family. Also, we should expect criminals to follow anti-gun laws.

    I just love it.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Do you have any experience in dealing with armed criminals? I do.

    If a situation turns into a gunfight, the last thing you want is to be MINIMALLY-armed. Overkill is much preferred. In fact, being heavily armed tends to minimize the liklihood that there will be a gunfight at all... this is one of the reasons that when cops turn out to arrest a perp considered "Armed and dangerous", they don't send one deputy with a single sidearm... they send a tactically-armed team.

    If I confront an armed tresspasser on my land, he is less likely to escalate the situation if he sees that I am more heavily armed than he is.

    This is really just basic tactics. Very very basic.
    Good luck using logic.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    [QUOTE=haymarket;1059263943][QUOTE=TurtleDude;1059263530]


    I certainly hope so. We pay police officers money to do just that.

    Is that hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, annually, over the entire history of the USA, or over the history of the world? And you have the authoritative statistics to back up this boast? Statistics which definitively can quantify that claim and are widely accepted and respected?

    btw - authoritative statistics refers to a source other than yourself that has some standing and is reliable and trustworthy.

    I have never seen anyone deny that a person with a gun should not defend themselves against a criminal attempting to harm them. That is a given.
    I guess you forgot or are ignoring all the citations given to you on those two threads where you got schooled on this subject in the "Law and Order" section of the forum

    look-we realize you really wish your dem masters had the votes and the political capital to ban guns. you want to ban "high capacity magazines"

    you claim that those killed in gun violence are victims of the second amendment

    you fool no one



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