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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/law-an...l?daysprune=-1

    Posted this thread last year, it overviews a report from the Cato Institute that examines incarceration rates in comparison to violent crime rates. I don't feel a need to revisit research you haven't done.
    I have no trouble with Cato, but do you see them as perfect? Nothing to debate in what they say?

    Total crimes statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no trouble with Cato, but do you see them as perfect? Nothing to debate in what they say?
    I find them greatly superior to posting links to overall crime stats (our population size means that our crimes overall will ALWAYS be higher than the number of crimes in many other countries). You should look at crimes per person, not overall crime statistics if you want to make comparisons.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no trouble with Cato, but do you see them as perfect? Nothing to debate in what they say?

    Total crimes statistics - countries compared - NationMaster
    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I find them greatly superior to posting links to overall crime stats (our population size means that our crimes overall will ALWAYS be higher than the number of crimes in many other countries). You should look at crimes per person, not overall crime statistics if you want to make comparisons.

    It's also important to read definitions and notes found at the bottom of crime statistics information:

    DEFINITION: Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's also important to read definitions and notes found at the bottom of crime statistics information:
    Read. Doesn't change what I'm saying. We commit a lot of crime and put a lot of people in jail.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Read. Doesn't change what I'm saying. We commit a lot of crime and put a lot of people in jail.
    Our crime rates have dropped significantly and are at something like a 40 year low. This has occurred with a significant increase in the reporting of rapes over that same time span. I'm not going to conjecture on what the cause (or causes) of these declines could be, but it's definitely true that crime in the US has been on the decline since it's peak in the early 90's.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Read. Doesn't change what I'm saying. We commit a lot of crime and put a lot of people in jail.
    Yes, god forbid you actually read and THINK.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Our crime rates have dropped significantly and are at something like a 40 year low. This has occurred with a significant increase in the reporting of rapes over that same time span. I'm not going to conjecture on what the cause (or causes) of these declines could be, but it's definitely true that crime in the US has been on the decline since it's peak in the early 90's.
    I've heard people argue that it is an effect of Roe vs Wade. They point to statistics that show unwanted babies are more likely to commit a crime or serve prison time as adults. Hence, less unwanted babies equal less criminals. I don't agree with that argument myself, but it is interesting.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Good it will seal his fate. This issue will cost him his job.


    Note. In jersey i lost my firearms id card... While getting a new one i had to consent of a release of my mental records, etc.


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