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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hey, here's an idea, how about we not let one nut case change our country.
    Why on Earth not? If it's a legitimate point that this whole fiasco brings up, why not allow a single event to change your nation? That's the problem -- conservatives are, inherently, afraid of change.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Why on Earth not? If it's a legitimate point that this whole fiasco brings up, why not allow a single event to change your nation? That's the problem -- conservatives are, inherently, afraid of change.
    liberals want change for the sake of change no matter how it F's up the country.

    gun banners are essentially a fungus in this country and want to make the nation safer for criminals so the sheeple will agree to give the government more power so as to get more "safety"

    any politician who doesn't trust his employers to own the same guns that are used to protect that politician is probably someone that is not worthy of office and indeed might be in need of having his tenure "terminated"



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Oh I don't know... maybe it's because we are so lax in this country and we have the highest murder rate in the world with guns that are as common as candy? Just a thought.
    why do gun haters spew such blatant lies?



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Why on Earth not? If it's a legitimate point that this whole fiasco brings up, why not allow a single event to change your nation? That's the problem -- conservatives are, inherently, afraid of change.
    What? What good will gun laws do? What happens if they fail? Another round of gun laws?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    So every time someone commits a crime with a gun you want to infringe my on 2nd Amendment rights?

    you have it backwards-he always wants to infringe on your second amendment rights-he just uses acts of terror to spew such thoughts



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Then you support restrictions on sexual activity between consenting adults, because we don't let minors under a certain age have sex?
    Guy doesn't know what he really wants-but if you post something he will post something in opposition-its called being a "contrarian"

    the only logic to his opposition is that its opposition



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I thought you were an attorney, and thus a student of precision in language. Kindly tell me where in my post that I said I was a gun banner. I am not. I merely stated that everyone is in favor of some form of gun control, we just argue about where to draw the line. Jumping to conclusions is not very attorney like. You must have spent time as a prosecutor, they tend to do that.

    The idea of banning the clips is not new. I was part of the Federal Assault Weapon ban of 1994, which was allowed to expire. Now, even Dick Cheney, one of the most staunch gun advocates in America, suggests that a ban on the size of a magazine is reasonable. Given that sanction, it is unreasonable for you to think I am a gun banner, unless you think Dick is one as well.

    Dick Cheney | Gun Control | Video | Mediaite

    Now, I will accept one of your corrections. I said that had the magazine ban existed he would not have been able to get one. You are correct that banning something does not prevent possession. I misspoke and should have been more precise in my assertion. The correct assertion should have been that with the ban, it would have been far more difficult to get the extended magazine. After all if, to use your illustration, its more difficult (and dangerous) to get cocaine (which is illegal) than beer (which is no longer illegal). Given that he made a retail purchase of his gun and ammo, it is unlikely he would have had the extended clip, or more precisely, it is certainly less likely.

    As to your argument of incrementalism, this is a tired and rather juvenile NRA position.... if we give one inch, they will take everything. That approach is unreasonable at every level. Some things require fixing, and to fix those things more often results in fortifying one's position, not weakening it.
    your support of gun rights is admirable. Since every gun ban organization believes in an incremental approach any such incremental action is bad. And its juvenile to restrict honest people when someone commits capital murder with a gun. If the needle doesn't deter them a gun ban will not

    Anything civilian cops can use I should be able to own



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What? What good will gun laws do? What happens if they fail? Another round of gun laws?
    that of course is the intent-pass laws that only harass honest people and when criminals disobey them (along with the substantive laws)use that as an excuse to harass us some more



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Most of the mass shootings in the last few years including Columbine, Virginia Tech, Northern Illinois University, Arizona shootings, and now this were all guns bought legally by people with mental issues.

    Mom kills her two Teens



    ...NEW TAMPA, Fla. - Tampa Police have arrested a New Tampa mother after they say she shot her two teenage children to death Thursday night.

    Investigators say Julie Powers Schenecker, 50, shot and killed her children with a .38 caliber gun in their home...

    ...After being read her miranda rights, police say Schenecker admitted to purchasing the revolver last weekend, and said she planned to murder her children and then kill herself...


    Police say New Tampa mom shot her teen children to death

    We keep hearing the argument about tightening laws and people can still get guns but I keep seeing mentally ill people buying guns legally as easy as getting a license plate at the local license bureau. WTF is wrong with us? Why would we make it easy for nut jobs to buy lethal weapons?
    Ok so today a mentally ill person can purchase a gun and kill someone. So lets make it illegal for them to buy it, and let them get it from someone/somewhere else (and don't tell me they couldn't access one because they could). Basically you just lose profit toward the company selling the gun, you're not going to save a life.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Guns kill people no more than spoons make people fat. I agree we need to make sure mentally unstable people and violent offenders do not get guns but not at the expence of the second amend.

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