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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Why do Conservatives resist any type of gun control in this country. Everytime the issue comes-up they all do the "sky is falling" routine where they think it will be some slippery slope of eradicating gun ownership.

    For christsake, even Dick Cheney said last week we should do something about high-round clips and keep guns out of crazies hands, and he voted against legislation banning the cop killer bullets and plastic guns.

    Oh, and once again, there is only one law regarding mentally unstable gun ownership and they must confess to being crazy at purchase.
    Because gun control isn't the answer.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because gun control isn't the answer.
    Then what is?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Do you really think that gun control can get past the Senate?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Then what is?
    Actually, crime stats suggest that it probably involves incarcerating violent offenders for long periods of time. Our violent crime rate has dropped drastically since we started doing so.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, crime stats suggest that it probably involves incarcerating violent offenders for long periods of time. Our violent crime rate has dropped drastically since we started doing so.
    Thats because the one's doing the shooting are locked up I suppose?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you really think that gun control can get past the Senate?
    No.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you really think that gun control can get past the Senate?
    Of course not, the GOP will argue that we need thirty-round clips to protect ourselves against the government, bandits, and zombies.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Then what is?
    A discussion to talk about when a person should be involuntarily admitted to a mental health facility for evalutation. The AZ shtaooting has nothing to do with gun control and everything to do with the inability to have mentally unstable people reviewed and flagged. If Loughner was flagged as mentally disabled - even though he lives a fairly normal life, he couldn't have bought the gun.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Thats because the one's doing the shooting are locked up I suppose?
    Purty much. I mean, you can't control for crimes of passion or insanity, but yes, in general, there is a relatively small percentage of humans who are likely to kill other humans. If you remove them from society, violent crime decreases.

    p.s. If we really wanted to stop crimes like this, we'd look at our mental health system and the effects of the well-intended but utterly unhelpful reforms of the 1970s and 80s.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    A discussion to talk about when a person should be involuntarily admitted to a mental health facility for evalutation. The AZ shtaooting has nothing to do with gun control and everything to do with the inability to have mentally unstable people reviewed and flagged. If Loughner was flagged as mentally disabled - even though he lives a fairly normal life, he couldn't have bought the gun.
    So him having a gun was not an issue? You realize he would still be sitting in his parents house ranting about the government if he couldn't buy a gun right?

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