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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    So you think it is bad to stop mentally imbalanced people from obtaining assault rifles?
    Not at all, Arizona has such a system in place mandated by federal law, the Brady Act. So what happened? The guy had made threats before, why wasn't he in the system?
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree, completely.
    Yeah, like all those real and honest discussions minus the emotions about Bush right?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Here we go Obama playing politics and using a tragedy to forward his agenda
    So I take it you had equal outrage when the previous administration used 9/11 as a cover to attack Iraq?



    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    This will cause more disdain toward Obama from conservatives.
    I doubt this particular issue will change natural events one way or another. Conservative distain for Obama grows each time he wakes up.

    Sorry, but had the asualt weapon ban been continued, the shooter would not have been able to obtain the extended ammo clip. If he did not have that clip, he would have done less than half the damage he did. There is no rational reason for those clips to exist. It is reasonable to restrict them. Even Dick Cheney agrees with that.

    We all believe in gun control, we just disagree about where the control line should be drawn.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So I take it you had equal outrage when the previous administration used 9/11 as a cover to attack Iraq?





    I doubt this particular issue will change natural events one way or another. Conservative distain for Obama grows each time he wakes up.

    Sorry, but had the asualt weapon ban been continued, the shooter would not have been able to obtain the extended ammo clip. If he did not have that clip, he would have done less than half the damage he did. There is no rational reason for those clips to exist. It is reasonable to restrict them. Even Dick Cheney agrees with that.

    We all believe in gun control, we just disagree about where the control line should be drawn.
    what moronic nonsense--thousands of those magazines were made before the ban and were available

    cocaine is banned for how many decades and this country is full of it

    if there is no rational reason for such magazines to exist why do so many police departments have such magazines in various weapons/

    the problem with you gun banners is you want to ban a 30 round magazine today-a 20 round magazine tomorrow and a 10 round magazine next week

    ANYTHING CIVILIAN POLICE DEPARTMENTS USE HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE USEFUL FOR CIVILIANS TO USE IN SELF DEFENSE

    THUS OTHER CIVILIANS OUGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Murder is illegal, but people still commit murder, so by your logic, murder should not be illegal. That line of argument is ridiculous.
    Lets go off topic to argue something different. Completed.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    The White House should support Rep. Carolyn McCarthy’s bill outlawing the sale or transfer of clips that hold more than ten rounds, even those obtained before the law takes effect. It's the very least we can do in the face of the Tucson Massacre.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The White House should support Rep. Carolyn McCarthy’s bill outlawing the sale or transfer of clips that hold more than ten rounds, even those obtained before the law takes effect. It's the very least we can do in the face of the Tucson Massacre.
    hysterical psychobabble

    the most common police sidearms use 15-18 round magazines--that means many government units have determined that is the appropriate number of rounds for civilian employees to use for self defense

    of course the emotobabblers think that punishing millions of people is OK because ITS DOING SOMETHING



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The White House should support Rep. Carolyn McCarthy’s bill outlawing the sale or transfer of clips that hold more than ten rounds, even those obtained before the law takes effect. It's the very least we can do in the face of the Tucson Massacre.
    so if I own dozens of those magazine I should just hand them over to make people like you feel better

    what if thousands wont-let me guess you want to throw them in prison which would then justify them killing those who tried? I mean if you want to ruin someone's life for owning a 15 dollar 15 round magazine I certainly believe they would have the moral right to retaliate



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    So I take it you had equal outrage when the previous administration used 9/11 as a cover to attack Iraq?





    I doubt this particular issue will change natural events one way or another. Conservative distain for Obama grows each time he wakes up.

    Sorry, but had the asualt weapon ban been continued, the shooter would not have been able to obtain the extended ammo clip. If he did not have that clip, he would have done less than half the damage he did. There is no rational reason for those clips to exist. It is reasonable to restrict them. Even Dick Cheney agrees with that.

    We all believe in gun control, we just disagree about where the control line should be drawn.
    911 was an act of war against our country not a random lunitic .

    Blame Obama for dropping the ball on that ban

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    911 was an act of war against our country not a random lunitic .

    Blame Obama for dropping the ball on that ban
    if sham wow had tried to push that ban he would have lost the senate too



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