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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dogs are good. My parents have a bulldog, 3 mutts and various dos in and out of the house (mom does animal rescue for a no kill shelter and often has dogs there when needed) and they both have pistols. Because dogs aren't perfect
    I have an English mastiff and 3 hand guns

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I don't believe it happens at gun shows. I believe it occurs in specific stores with specific dealers.
    Mmm, shady arms dealer. I want to be a shady arms dealer if my dream of becoming a pirate falls through.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, that's probably true. But if I were robbing a place and came across a dog that wanted to eat me, I'd probably just pop the dog. And then the owner in the leg for having released the dog. Maybe the knee so that whenever it rains they're reminded of their bad choice.
    My concern would be someone attempting to get into the house in the middle of the night when I'm not there. My dog can be in the bedroom, caged up, and will still go ballistic if you touch the outside of the house. I'm not worried about the scenario I described with her there. And, unlike the movies, someone who's trying to get into the house in the middle of the night is worried about being stealthy and probably doesn't have a silencer. So no, they aren't going to shoot the dog and wake the neighbors. We live in a suburban neighborhood.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think Obama's already shown enough propensity for pissing off the base and moving towards the center, because honestly catering to the center does you a lot more good than catering to the liberal base which is pretty small in this country.
    Obama center? What world do?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I don't believe it happens at gun shows. I believe it occurs in specific stores with specific dealers.
    Wow. I would have thought the direct opposite. I wouldn't think those stores or dealers would stay out of jail very long doing that.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Mmm, shady arms dealer. I want to be a shady arms dealer if my dream of becoming a pirate falls through.
    If my dream of being a zombie slayer falls through, I want to be a Parisian courtesan.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Wow. I would have thought the direct opposite. I wouldn't think those stores or dealers would stay out of jail very long doing that.
    Purchases at gun shows require the same sort of paperwork as purchases through a dealer.

    This is a good article on the subject of crime guns. Money quote:

    ATF officials say that only about 8% of the nation's 124,000 retail gun dealers sell the majority of handguns that are used in crimes.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ocon/guns.html

    I didn't know this either, but I was trained by the ATF this year. I'd say that one of the most valuable things that the ATF does is to attempt to deter/prosecute these kinds of illegal sales of weapons.

    FWIW, the BATFE (mostly known as the ATF) is my favorite federal agency. Most of the guys and gals who work for BATFE have street cop experience before they go to work for BATFE, and their work shows. I know that they are the favorite punching bag of the far right, but when it comes to actual street level crime, BATFE is the best federal ally that most local police agencies have access to. They aren't afraid to get their hands dirty and work in the street, they share information readily, they serve willingly on joint task forces, and they don't have to own everything that happens. This is very dissimilar from other federal agencies.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Technically incorrect --- the "czars" positions only existing since FDR, they have not "always" existed - though yes, some czar position existed since Bush.
    Sorry, "always" is an exaggeration. But the number of czars went up dramatically between Clinton and Bush, and Obama has carried on with about the same number.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If my dream of being a zombie slayer falls through, I want to be a Parisian courtesan.
    Interesting. Did I ever tell you that I am a king?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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