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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The answer is to commit these people not make anti gun laws
    I'm not sure there's much need. These are isolated cases and are very low probability events. Sure with enough time, you'll see the probability work out. But in the end, I don't know what can be done to document and commit these people. Maybe in this one case there could have been something. But it's not going to dramatically affect the system by trying to make changes other than offering a much higher chance of government force used against the rights of the individual.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Of course and if you think the constitution needs interpretation then you can look at the intentions of those who authored the amendments in the constitution.




    You do not know that we have an amendment process for repealing or adding amendments to the constitution. The most recent one the 27th added in 1992.
    So why is the 2nd so important? Can it not be amended, but slavery can?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Try, NICE TRUTH
    More like partisan hackery

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You gotta watch out for the ATF. They've shown that they are more than willing to set fire to your compound and watch everyone inside burn to death.
    Seems entirely avoidable if you don't shoot back at someone trying to execute a legal search warrant. And to this day there's still debate as to who actually set the fire.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    More like partisan hackery
    So do you or do you not support gun ownership?

    Do you or do you not want the government to prevent gay marriage and abortion?

    Thus, not partisan hackery!

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02
    Looks like it has to me....just saying
    What's that list got to do with guns or gun laws? And your list doesn't have anything to do with the gun bans in the U.K. or Australia - which is a rights issue, not a homicide issue.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why should I have to? Keep gun ownership legal
    That's what i'm saying. The probably if gun ownership becoming illegal within the near future, or even into the foreseeable future, is virtually nil.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hindsight my friend. He "could have" "might have" had enough people acted. But they didn't. And the police and college folks had both the ample power and reason to get the ball going and dropped it. I don't believe hindsight is wisdom.
    Shows we need laws to commit nut cases not gun laws
    Last edited by ptif219; 01-27-11 at 05:40 PM.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Seems entirely avoidable if you don't shoot back at someone trying to execute a legal search warrant. And to this day there's still debate as to who actually set the fire.
    Ahh yes, let them run roughshod over you and you'll have nothing to worry about. Very nice.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    So you think it is bad to stop mentally imbalanced people from obtaining assault rifles?
    I don't have a problem with this, however, loughner wasn't judged to be mentally ill. There is no legislation that can be passed that would have changed this situation......at all.
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