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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Gun Control's goal, of denying criminals guns is laudable. I don't like criminals with guns anymore then you do. However, making guns harder to obtain for honest, law abiding citizens merely empowers criminals.

    The incident in Az was not a case of lack of laws, but a case of the current laws needing a simple tweak. Had the Police and the School been able to report his mental state, that might have red flagged him from buying a gun legally.
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    Loughner could have been committed under Arizona law - USATODAY.com
    "The state laws are some of the best in the country," said Jack Potts, a forensic psychiatrist in Phoenix. "The follow-up is not."

    Under Arizona law, anyone can call the county or regional health authorities with concerns about a person's mental health, and authorities are required to send out mobile units to assess the person's condition, said Brian Stettin, policy director at the Treatment Advocacy Center in Arlington, Va., which advocates for involuntary commitment for mental illness.

    The person who files a request for commitment must list the names of two witnesses who can attest to the subject's behavior, although they don't have to sign the document themselves, Potts said.
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    This is my thing, Republicans want everything their way. You want guns so guns should be protected. You don't like abortion or gays so that should be illegal. If you support freedom, support freedom. Otherwise just say you want everything your way like a child does.

    Conservatives say they don't want government telling them what to do, but they do want government telling everybody they don't like what to do!
    Nice spin to avoid my point By the way I am a independent conservative I do not belong to a political party
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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Good idea. Let's get rid of cars too. Cars kill 30,000 people a year, and injure 2.3 million adult drivers and passengers every year and is the leading cause of death of those ages 5-35 in the United States.
    You just don't get it! Look at how many insane people get guns and shoot up civilian areas! There was VT several years ago and now the dude in AZ. I mean, here you are bringing up things which have well greater impact on our probabilities of survival, but don't you see that through draconian methods and government force against our rights we can make a negligible probability even more negligible? Sheesh, some people just don't get it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Says the liberal that supports Obama
    Alright ptif. If the ATF ever comes to your house and tries to take away your guns just shoot the **** outta them with whatever you got. stock up on whatever you need, and take all those nasty Feds out or go out in a blaze of glory.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't it funny that the same people who want to **** on the 2nd amendment are the same ones trying to say that your just paranoid or that you have nothing to dear.
    So I take it you feel that the Constitution should be taken exactly how it was and left unchanged, ever?

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Nice spin to avoid my point By the way I am a independent conservative I do not belong to a political party
    Try, NICE TRUTH

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Stricter gun control =/= taking away your second amendment rights. You'll be fine ptif.
    Hmm... the U.K. and Australia thought that too. Didn't work out too well for them.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure about this, but I don't think the executive order gives the President the ability to regulate something on a scale as large as this. And again, even if he did, it would be political suicide so I'm not sure if he would even want to. If anything happens it's going to be done through Congress.
    If government has shown us anything, it's to not underestimate their ability to usurp power.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hey, here's an idea, how about we not let one nut case change our country.
    Osama Bin Laden certainly did.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Neither of those issues are so deeply rooted in the Bill of Rights as gun ownership.
    Yet no one years ago ever thought they would be legal. Liberals at that time did the same thing as you are doing now. It is okay don't worry it will not happen

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