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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No they better stay away from my house. I have 3 hand guns and a concealed weapons license. I want no laws that come against my rights to have these
    Stricter gun control =/= taking away your second amendment rights. You'll be fine ptif.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I see....and how exactly is it possible to create regulations without the approval of congress?
    He has already done it with the EPA it will continue to other departments heads, There is a reason Obama has all these Czars

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I see....and how exactly is it possible to create regulations without the approval of congress?
    Yeah. The Executive Order is one example of how a President can legislate through the executive office. It's maybe not the best thing to allow to go unchecked.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes just like legal abortion would never happen and we will never see legal gay marriage?
    This is my thing, Republicans want everything their way. You want guns so guns should be protected. You don't like abortion or gays so that should be illegal. If you support freedom, support freedom. Otherwise just say you want everything your way like a child does.

    Conservatives say they don't want government telling them what to do, but they do want government telling everybody they don't like what to do!

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes just like legal abortion would never happen and we will never see legal gay marriage?
    Neither of those issues are so deeply rooted in the Bill of Rights as gun ownership.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    They become illegally obtained because guns are so prevalent in this culture that I can break into a house and steal a gun, or go buy one, file off the serial number and sell the gun to a crook, report it stolen and I am off the hook.
    Filing off the serial number? Off the hook? You're aware that such serial number removal is not an effective way to disguise a weapon's orgins and hasn't since the 1950's. Acid etching has been around since the 1950's and has been used on cars and firearms. Been watching Jimmy Cagney and Humphrey Bogart movies again?

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    If guns were not everywhere, it would not be so easy to have millions of them floating around to be obtained illegally.
    Good idea. Let's get rid of cars too. Cars kill 30,000 people a year, and injure 2.3 million adult drivers and passengers every year and is the leading cause of death of those ages 5-35 in the United States. If cars were not everywhere, it would not be so easy for people to have accidents and kill themselves and others in them. We need to ban all moving vehicles immediately!

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    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah. The Executive Order is one example of how a President can legislate through the executive office. It's maybe not the best thing to allow to go unchecked.
    I'm not sure about this, but I don't think the executive order gives the President the ability to regulate something on a scale as large as this. And again, even if he did, it would be political suicide so I'm not sure if he would even want to. If anything happens it's going to be done through Congress.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't it funny that the same people who want to **** on the 2nd amendment are the same ones trying to say that your just paranoid or that you have nothing to dear.
    Thats what they always do and then when it is to late they get their way

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Stricter gun control =/= taking away your second amendment rights. You'll be fine ptif.
    Says the liberal that supports Obama

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Gun Control's goal, of denying criminals guns is laudable. I don't like criminals with guns anymore then you do. However, making guns harder to obtain for honest, law abiding citizens merely empowers criminals.

    The incident in Az was not a case of lack of laws, but a case of the current laws needing a simple tweak. Had the Police and the School been able to report his mental state, that might have red flagged him from buying a gun legally. However it would not have PREVENTED him from buying a gun. Does anyone really believe that being denied a pistol purchase would have really stopped this nut job? He would have found another way. Black market gun sales, maybe he would have driven a car into the crowd instead, or made a pipe bomb...

    No "gun control" would have stopped him from acting the way he did. And new laws "aimed at stopping people liek him" aren't really productive, just exercises in political showmanship at the cost of our rights.
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