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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    link?

    forgive me if I don't simply take your word for it.
    All I need is one statement.

    Shays' Rebellion a sometimes-violent uprising of farmers angry over conditions in Massachusetts in 1786 prompted Thomas Jefferson to express the view that "a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" for America. Unlike other leaders of The Republic, Jefferson felt that the people had a right to express their grievances against the government, even if those grievances might take the form of violent action.

    A Little Rebellion Now and Then Is A Good Thing

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    some try to derail a thread by demanding proof of stuff that is obvious



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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some try to derail a thread by demanding proof of stuff that is obvious
    the details of 4 statements by Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson, are obvious?

    sorry, this thread deals with gun laws.

    and I ain't taking anything for granted, especially when it comes to supposed quotes by our Founding Fathers, that supposedly support violent revolution against our democratically-elected government.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    and the other three quotes??

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and the other three quotes??
    I'm not doing your work for you, its called Google. Type in the recipient and the year and you'll have it. The fact remains that these are among the most popular Jefferson quotes, and your demanding proof of them comes from a place of either ignorance, or stalling.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    dude, read the thread. then comment.
    I have seen no one say we should revolt.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and the other three quotes??
    One doesn't need a list of quotes. Above is Jefferson's quote. Now you might argue that was his opinion alone but his opinion does weight pretty heavy, no?

    That would make it a little less than absolutely obvious what was being called for by your definition. Common sense would tell one that the Founders would never have removed the right for individuals to own guns. Much of the country was still unsettled and people had to feed and protect themselves.
    Last edited by 1Perry; 07-18-11 at 12:01 AM.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and the other three quotes??
    Yes, check them for yourself. I included one that you can argue with, but I still like it.

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    Re: White House to Push Gun Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I'm not doing your work for you, its called Google. Type in the recipient and the year and you'll have it. The fact remains that these are among the most popular Jefferson quotes, and your demanding proof of them comes from a place of either ignorance, or stalling.
    both most likely. its a ploy a few use to try to derail comments that are hurtful to their nonsense



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