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Uganda gay rights activist David Kato killed

apdst said:
I guess that's why the killers are running from the police.

Ya know, murder is illegal in the United States, but vigilantism isn't and cops will go whole hog after a vigilante. Perhaps the same standard exists in Uganda. You don't know that it doesn't.

But, hey, don't let reality stand in your way of bigot bashin'.
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If you believe that the police are actively trying to catch this person. I just don't trust the Ugandan police, and point to where I am "bigot bashing" please.
 
apdst said:
The Ugandan police could tell you that crap tastes bad and you would have trouble believing them. Again, because you already have your mind made up about what went down here.

It's just like someone said on a local talk show a while back: "Never underestimate the power of the made up mind".
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Do you know just how ironic this post is?
 
MrVicchio said:
Way to go you, and Catz. Tie what is a different culture and place, Uganda to "irresponsible vitriol". That's using the dead to promote your politics!
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Who is tying this to anything other than the vigilantist anti-gay propaganda that has been disseminated by authoritarian and extreme religious groups across many African countries? That I use the expression "irresponsible vitriol" does not mean I'm blaming Sarah Palin. If I accused you of being "economical with the truth" does not mean I'm linking your diatribe with the 1986 Spycatcher trial - it's just that such a phrase was coined then and is a useful and evocative expression. Your own partisan perspective is blinding you to THIS issue, nothing to do with US domestic politics.
 
Hatred brought to you by the evangelicals...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html?_r=1

For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”
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And there is a lot of evidence that the Evangelical movement is directly involved with the Ugandan government and their attempts to ban homosexuality.

I fear that this guy is only one of many.. gone and to come.. to die from the radical Christian elements around the world.
 
My deepest sympathies.

Evangelicals should be banned from Uganda - heck, how about most of Africa until they are vetted (along with any other religious people seeking to do missionary work). They are spreading the hate and poison against Gays further inflamed by the religiosity and paranoia found in most of Africa. They can get away with it there when they wouldn't in US
I wouldn't trust the police to capture who killed him and I have a bad feeling he will not be the last victim of homophobia.

That damn newspaper didn't help to :roll:
 
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Laila said:
My deepest sympathies.

Evangelicals should be banned from Uganda - heck, how about most of Africa until they are vetted (along with any other religious people seeking to do missionary work). They are spreading the hate and poison against Gays further inflamed by the religiosity and paranoia found in most of Africa. They can get away with it there when they wouldn't in US
I wouldn't trust the police to capture who killed him and I have a bad feeling he will not be the last victim of homophobia.

That damn newspaper didn't help to :roll:
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We should replace them with Muslims. Right?
 
Infinite Chaos said:
What makes you think one would be or should be replaced by another? You simply produced a classic non sequitur.
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I was being sarcastic.

Also pointing out the stupidity at, now, blaming this on Christians doing missionary work. First it was straight up bigots, now Christians. Whose next on the blame list, Lynard Skynard?
 
apdst said:
-- blaming this on Christians doing missionary work. First it was straight up bigots, now Christians. Whose next on the blame list, Lynard Skynard?
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Having met many different types of Christian Missionaries in various parts of Africa and still having some old contacts around the central Africa region - I can say that evangelical and pentecostal missionaries in Africa are pretty dangerous zealots. I do however agree an earlier point you made regarding the cause for the murder being unknown as yet.

As yet however, the case in Uganda is ongoing so I'm not making any judgements. I also doubt (looking at the universally accepted hostility to homosexuality in Uganda) that the police will be looking too hard for the murderer of a gay man if they don't already have him in prison. As for the cause for the murder - that may never be truly uncovered. Many african police forces like to beat confessions out of their suspects so even if the current suspect being held confesses - he may have confessed just to stop the beating.
 
apdst said:
We should replace them with Muslims. Right?
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Incapable of reading I guess?
Here, let me help you.
Evangelicals should be banned from Uganda - heck, how about most of Africa until they are vetted (along with any other religious people seeking to do missionary work). They are spreading the hate and poison against Gays further inflamed by the religiosity and paranoia found in most of Africa. They can get away with it there when they wouldn't in US
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apdst said:
Well, yeah, you did.
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Was it not hate when the newspaper printed his image and called for his hanging? My point with that sentence was disproving your point of "this crap again." It's not "crap" in the sense that it's false hype to try and make homosexuals look persecuted. In this case it is fact that they are persecuted, and the facts show this man was put into a paper that called for his hanging and later beaten to death.
 
digsbe said:
Was it not hate when the newspaper printed his image and called for his hanging? My point with that sentence was disproving your point of "this crap again." It's not "crap" in the sense that it's false hype to try and make homosexuals look persecuted. In this case it is fact that they are persecuted, and the facts show this man was put into a paper that called for his hanging and later beaten to death.
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Yes, it is. There a million reasons why this dude could have been murdered. He might have owed someone money on a gambling debt, for all you know. But, owe no! This wonderful man was murdered by mean ol bigots and homophobes, because he's gay and awesome.
 
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