Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst ... 56789 LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 90

Thread: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

  1. #61
    Pragmatic Idealist
    upsideguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rocky Mtn. High
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,110

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    1. tell it to barack

    2. soc sec was never sposed to be a welfare program

    3. another fundamental promise unfulfilled

    4. 500 a month in, for low earners, for a lifetime

    5. 1000 a month back for those who make it to whatever the newest, most recently revised retirement age turns out to be

    6. if the program were a success it would not be in such desperate need of such dire remediation
    You have changed the subject... we are not discussing the merits of SS, only whether it is solvent. On the relevant topic, there is not need for dire remdiation. Hyperpole does not make for a compelling argument. You've lost this one. Move on.

  2. #62
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    "we" are not discussing the merits of soc sec

    only it's insolvency

    LOL!

    bleeding 45B per year a generation too soon, the boomers beginning to belly up

    in need of draconian reform, all adults know, including almost assuredly a combination of ALL prescriptions, the age, the payroll, the bennies, the means, the cap...

    ie, pain for all

    so shanisha and shalom who are currently putting in a thousand per month between em in hopes of someday making it to 69 or 70 or who knows, by then, so she or he can pull out hopefully that 1076 per, adjusted by then of course to current quarters and nickels and dimes...

    yes, they can cheerfully look forward, AFTER reform, to paying in some 1200 per in order to get some 976...

    because the cavalier crowd has FIXED the whole thing with a casual click

    grow up

  3. #63
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:42 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,877

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    just pop the cap and freeze benefits to todays levels plus inflation and the problem is solved for the next seven decades.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  4. #64
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    just revise fundamentally soc sec into a welfare program and cut out for the foreseeable cost of living adjustments for folks utterly dependent and promised all their lives...

    that's all

    as divorced from political reality as a neo narcissus

    astonishing

    no wonder the party in power took such a shellacking in november

  5. #65
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Undisclosed
    Last Seen
    03-18-13 @ 02:59 PM
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,544

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    Here we come gang. Seventy seven million baby boomers at your throats demanding benefits. Half of us haven't saved one red cent for retirement. So you young folks are going to save us. It's your duty.

  6. #66
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:42 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,877

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Here we come gang. Seventy seven million baby boomers at your throats demanding benefits. Half of us haven't saved one red cent for retirement. So you young folks are going to save us. It's your duty.
    It is the duty of the nation, its government and its people to honor the long standing terms of the deal that people have honored their entire working lives.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  7. #67
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    05-16-15 @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,537

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    yup

    and that's why draconian alterations to those long standing terms---eligibility age, payroll obligations, benefits due, etc---all changes made to the detriment of the membership, is a big govt betrayal to those hundreds of millions of people who have honored that deal their entire working lives...

  8. #68
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Undisclosed
    Last Seen
    03-18-13 @ 02:59 PM
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,544

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is the duty of the nation, its government and its people to honor the long standing terms of the deal that people have honored their entire working lives.
    The only group large enough to provide for the care and comfort of seniors is the young. They must accept the yoke and harness. It's their duty. The young must subordinate all of their dreams and hopes to protecting the welfare of each and every one of America's seniors until the very last one of the baby boomers passes from the scene.

  9. #69
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yup

    and that's why draconian alterations to those long standing terms---eligibility age, payroll obligations, benefits due, etc---all changes made to the detriment of the membership, is a big govt betrayal to those hundreds of millions of people who have honored that deal their entire working lives...
    I disagree with your premise. The people who paid into SS are the same ones who elected the representatives that pillaged it. This is still a Republic, after all. Changing the age of retirement is therefore a betrayal of the people, by the people. We've made our bed and now we must sleep in it.

  10. #70
    User
    Chappy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    San Francisco
    Last Seen
    04-07-15 @ 01:50 AM
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    2,443
    Blog Entries
    26

    Re: Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    FoxNews.com - Social Security Fund to Be Empty by 2037
    Essentially, the SS trust fund has a big IOU in it, and nothing else.

    Yup. I feel safe and secure about SS. How about you?
    Do you detect the difference between what the article said and what you said? One has it right and the other, yours, has it wrong. The important aspect that is escaping many critics here is that money keeps flowing into Social Security each year, even 2037; yes, the obligations exceed the resources in that year, but, modest benefit changes can alter that reality. Social Security has been a great boon to American society; we should focus on fixing it not killing it.
    “Real environmentalists live in cities, and they visit what's left of the wilderness as gently and respectfully as possible.” — Donna Moulton, letter to the editor, Tucson Weekly, published on August 23, 2001

Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst ... 56789 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •