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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

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    Huh? Why does it matter if it's a liberal or conservative school system? For that matter, how do you even know that it *is* a "liberal school system" (whatever that means)? The article certainly says nothing of the sort. It's a shame that you found an interesting topic, and then instead of discussing it you decided to be a partisan troll.
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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Six minutes a day. Twenty minutes twice a month. Yeah, there's a scientific study. Let's bank those results. The mentoring aspect is an excellent one. It doesn't take segregation to check that out.
    Why do you assume that this is insufficient time for some good purpose to occur? The issue with teenagers isn't spending massive amounts of time with them. It's CONSISTENTLY spending time with them so that you can build a relationship over time, and see when you need to step in.

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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why do you assume that this is insufficient time for some good purpose to occur? The issue with teenagers isn't spending massive amounts of time with them. It's CONSISTENTLY spending time with them so that you can build a relationship over time, and see when you need to step in.
    If you think six minutes a day is time enough to form meaningful relationships, I don't know what to say. But I know I wouldn't want to be your boyfriend. ;-) ;-)
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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you think six minutes a day is time enough to form meaningful relationships, I don't know what to say. But I know I wouldn't want to be your boyfriend. ;-) ;-)
    I don't think its about building up so much of a "meaningful" relationship as it is just about the relationship period. IMO a teacher should not build meaningful relationships with students. But they do need a relationship with which to find common ground.

    If you spent 6 minutes a day with the same person for a year don't you think that you would eventually start to trust that person? I'm not saying that you have to trust them in all things. But wouldn't you trust thier word over someone whom you had just met? Catz is right that consistancy is key.
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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you think six minutes a day is time enough to form meaningful relationships, I don't know what to say. But I know I wouldn't want to be your boyfriend. ;-) ;-)
    These are teachers, not mentors. They already spend time with these kids in the classroom. This time is above and beyond that classroom time for a specific intent.

    Also, 6 minutes is a long time, depending on what you're doing.

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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't think its about building up so much of a "meaningful" relationship as it is just about the relationship period. IMO a teacher should not build meaningful relationships with students. But they do need a relationship with which to find common ground.
    What? Teachers should't build meaningful relationships with students? Are you kidding me? The best teachers on the planet earth build relationships with their students...ones of trust, fair play, concern, positive reinforcement, respect. I'm not talking about sex, you know. ;-)

    If you spent 6 minutes a day with the same person for a year don't you think that you would eventually start to trust that person? I'm not saying that you have to trust them in all things. But wouldn't you trust thier word over someone whom you had just met? Catz is right that consistancy is key.
    Yeah, perhaps. But my initial post was that this wasn't a test I personally would put much credence in. And I'll still stand by that. The idea that consistency is the key reminds me of what working parents try to tell themselves: It's not about how much time I spend, it's about quality time. It's both.
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    Re: School defends experiment to separate black students in a bid to boost their acad

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I had no idea such research had even been done. Quite frankly wouldn't have even expected it considering today's political corrrectness. I'd like to see that report before I draw any conclusions about this. If such a report was honest and factual with its data then I wouldn't mind...so long as it had been peer reviewed also.
    Sociologists and psychologists put an extensive amount of reserach and effort into trying to understand every factor that goes into all our many issues in the country.
    It's not new as far as research goes.

    She said research had shown that grouping black students by gender with a strong role model could boost both academic achievement and self-esteem.

    Some students, staff and parents were against the segregation, saying that it ran against everything the school stood for - with students from diverse backgrounds.

    But it was something Mr Jimenez thought was worth trying.

    In all segregated classes, mentors track their students' grades, test scores and attendance.

    One such mentor is Michael Mitchell, who hopes to inspire his black male students during their short daily meetings.
    What it sounds like here is just a get-together - more like a support group session than anything else.

    I don't see anything wrong with ti - they're not being treated poorly, punished, or withheld from activities. He seems like he's wanting to connect with them on a mature level which would be highly beneficial.

    A lot of extensive research shows that when youth are with other youth who share the same traits or interests they form a more positive bond and closeness which helps them grow positively and be supportive - independent and self-reliant as well as boosting feelings of self-worth and personal value.

    I don't see the harm. My son is in a special-ed program that does something similar for special-ed students.
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