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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Bull. Just like every other time, they were more concerned about being partisan twits and concerning themselves with what the democrats were doing than paying any attentoin to the people they were electing.
    So then, what was glenn beck back in 2006, when his show started, when he was calling george bush out for the debt?

    Or when Michael Savage was calling george bush the worst president and an "evil man" millions of times for the debt, immigration, and the little issue over kosovo?

    Or when Orielly said we could no longer trust the president...in 2004?

    want more examples?

    there have been conservatives calling him out forever man, you have just ignored it and then have the balls to go "Oh! Where were you when a republican president blah blah blah blah" and all that other ****ed up BS.
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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    So then, what was glenn beck back in 2006, when his show started, when he was calling george bush out for the debt?

    Or when Michael Savage was calling george bush the worst president and an "evil man" millions of times for the debt, immigration, and the little issue over kosovo?

    Or when Orielly said we could no longer trust the president...in 2004?

    want more examples?

    there have been conservatives calling him out forever man, you have just ignored it and then have the balls to go "Oh! Where were you when a republican president blah blah blah blah" and all that other ****ed up BS.
    Pleasae substantiate these examples.

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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I don't understand why we even have to go through these theatrics every few months or so. When I'm on a budget, I don't get to raise it whenever I want.
    True, but there's always your credit card for emergencies. and that's what raising the National Debt is all about... Emergencies.

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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    [QUOTE=The Prof;1059245344]
    it will, as always, be up to the electorate to decide whom they deem the more fiscally responsible, their approval or reproach for the various players involved
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    True, but as usual it's too complicated for voters to grasp, and they don't have the time to catch up, so they'll just have to rely on their old habits... Voting against, not for...

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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    as usual it's too complicated for voters to grasp
    speak for yourself

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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    You can cut in plenty of places. Our spending used to be a lot lower, and the Proletariat was not raising the barricades. Of course these cuts need to be done in a well thought out manner, and simply cutting to cut won't solve much. However, we have to face up to the reality that our fiscal course is not sustainable.
    It really doesn't matter how high the deficit goes, Fed Reserve funds will make up the difference as they've been doing for all deficits since 1913.

    Evidence of this is no deficit carry-over in the next year's budget. Makes sense too, because Government bills must be paid when due.

    Can you imagine what would happen if we defaulted on our debts just once, how it would effect our world credit?

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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    obama is betraying the liberals here with senseless paying off corporations and power grabbing for the sake of grabbing power,
    Recheck your dates. All that happened before Obama was President.

    As for Obama's economic power, it's only the veto pen and the bully pulpit, the same as it's always been for all presidents.

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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    am i talking to a wall here? you even a person or just programed to spit out lew rockwell talking points. i support cuts in spending, spending needs to be cut, cortar el gasto. i'm pointing out the fact that this legislation proposed by the conservative wing of the republicans stipulates that the richest people, including other countries, get paid first and in full then you can cut spending. and you doing this with a libertarian tag shows that you're bastardizing the ideology as much as william f buckley screwed up conservatism.
    Wait, what? When did I ever voice support for what the GOP was doing?
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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    It really doesn't matter how high the deficit goes, Fed Reserve funds will make up the difference as they've been doing for all deficits since 1913.

    Evidence of this is no deficit carry-over in the next year's budget. Makes sense too, because Government bills must be paid when due.

    Can you imagine what would happen if we defaulted on our debts just once, how it would effect our world credit?

    ricksfolly
    At some point the gravy train is going to end. At some point the deficit and debt are going to go too high.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    True, but there's always your credit card for emergencies. and that's what raising the National Debt is all about... Emergencies.

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    The national debt is raised every few months. These are not emergencies, but a refusal by Congress to be fiscally responsible.
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    Re: Republican Party unity cracks over raising $14.3 trillion debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    we have $1.5 Trillion in projected deficit this year,
    It was $1.4 deficit in 2009, and a $1.5 trillion in 2010, a $100 billion increase, but really no big deal. The Fed Reserve funds will for pay for it in 2010 the same way they did in 2009.

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