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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I have no idea why this is news, or why anyone cares one way or the other.

    So they stuck it in one of the racks that hides the cover... who really gives a rip?
    I don't that's for sure.. I hate censorship of reality. The reality is that these two dude have a baby.. Like James pointed out. It seems silly to censor the cover out of some fear?


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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I don't that's for sure.. I hate censorship of reality. The reality is that these two dude have a baby.. Like James pointed out. It seems silly to censor the cover out of some fear?


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    A store chose to put it there. It wasn't censorship imposed by law or government. The magazine wasn't thrown in the trash so no one could read it. It was just stuck in a rack that hides the cover.

    This was one store, or maybe one chain? of stores, in one place. It just doesn't seem worth making an issue over to me, but if anybody thinks it is worth talking about then I'll wish you happy debating.

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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I do. I judge them to be ignorant bigots.
    Please explain.
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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Arkansas is actually quite conflicted.
    In some places it's very liberal - VERY liberal . . . in other areas it's extremely conservative. That's why we have dry counties - and wet counties . . . areas that encourage the banning of gambling but still some areas which were always given permission to gamble (Hot Springs) and so on.

    But aren't all states this way - mixed up and hard to peg - no one right way to label it?

    After all - mass labels without basis are prejudices.

    To note - Mountain Home is considered a retirement community. Over half of the residence are from other states - moved in upon retirement to have a change of life and access to relaxing fishing, golfing and other things. I would imagine that the 'shield' was more likely in place for an old granny (like my Grandmother) than young children who have no concept of 'gay couple'
    My Grandfather lived there before he died - he most certain isn't a Native Arkansan - but he was a racist homophobic prick.
    I don't know. NY and CA are considered to be places where most simply wouldn't care about something this petty. Arkansas and the surrounding area? It simply doesn't surprise me this would happen there. I don't care either way. I just think any outrage at this event is missing geographical context.
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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't know. NY and CA are considered to be places where most simply wouldn't care about something this petty. Arkansas and the surrounding area? It simply doesn't surprise me this would happen there. I don't care either way. I just think any outrage at this event is missing geographical context.
    Oh it doesn't surprise me either - but if just the opposite happened I wouldn't be surprised.

    There's an immense gay population in the main areas (Little Rock, Hot Springs - so on). . . in fact, when I first became an 'adult' here - and moved *out* of Little Rock - I was suprised at the vast difference between people. In Little Rock a large number of people from the gay community would frequent the various businesses I worked at for the gay-pride parade and so on. It is really a thorough contrast. But in my town - 98% is white and there are NO openly gay people around.

    I know, though, that this is probably a classic "rural vs populated" issue - rather than a 'state to state' issue.

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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    A store chose to put it there. It wasn't censorship imposed by law or government.
    And since when did the definition of censorship require government involvement?
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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    And since when did the definition of censorship require government involvement?
    Well, that's the only kind of censorship we should really worry about since the government can enforce it on others.
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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, that's the only kind of censorship we should really worry about since the government can enforce it on others.
    You must be somebody incredibly ignorant of the last 200 in corporate development if you think the only censorship we should worry about is 'government censorship'. Private companies have enforced censorship just as much as governments. The East India Company, United Fruit, Firestone Rubber and Nike all come to mind. Corporate censorship is as enforceable as government censorship. All that is required is a few pay offs and the right political circumstance.
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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You must be somebody incredibly ignorant of the last 200 in corporate development if you think the only censorship we should worry about is 'government censorship'. Private companies have enforced censorship just as much as governments. The East India Company, United Fruit, Firestone Rubber and Nike all come to mind. Corporate censorship is as enforceable as government censorship. All that is required is a few pay offs and the right political circumstance.
    The government functions mostly through agencies and lobbies - I doubt that much happens in DC *because* of a politician's decision or noble idea. It's more so because everyone else who has influence pushes for something to happen.

    *spheres of influence*

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    Re: Elton's new baby censored

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I have no idea why this is news, or why anyone cares one way or the other.

    So they stuck it in one of the racks that hides the cover... who really gives a rip?
    The implication is that the sight of two men raising a baby is so offensive that children need to be protected from it.

    The fact that you can't understand why people would care about that says an awful lot about you.

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