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Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

Dirty Harry said:
So you think we should stand with Mubarak? Like we did with the Shah? Iran hates us because we installed the Shah. A ruthless killer that murdered and tortured his own people.

Obama is doing exactly as he should at this time.

A presence in Egypt? The entire mideast would erupt in violence. Our presence has caused enough problems.
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Bullcrap, Radical Islam hates us regardless of who we support or what we do. They hate our way of life and easily sway uneducated people about the evils we offer, yeah, right. Conditions in Iran were much better under the Shah than they are now. Be careful what you wish for because it isn't going to be as good as you think.

Guess a lot of ignorant people who always reach out to the U.S. when in need have short memories when it comes to even recent history.

Stop blaming and apologizing for the United States and our way of life, you sound like Obama.
 
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Conservative said:
Bullcrap, Radical Islam hates us regardless of who we support or what we do. They hate our way of life and easily sway uneducated people about the evils we offer, yeah, right. Conditions in Iran were much better under the Shah than they are now. Be careful what you wish for because it isn't going to be as good as you think.

Guess a lot of ignorant people who always reach out to the U.S. when in need have short memories when it comes to even recent history.

Stop blaming and apologizing for the United States and our way of life, you sound like Obama.
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They hate us for a reason. They don't hate Canada, Japan, and Brazil for their way of life.

Supporting ruthless dictators is not only imoral it is against everything this country stands for. Eventually people rise up against them. It's funny how some fight against tyranny in this country but support it in others.
 
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Dirty Harry said:
They hate us for a reason. They don't hate Canada, Japan, and Brazil for their way of life.

Supporting ruthless dictators is not only imoral it is against everything this country stands for. Eventually people rise up against them. It's funny how some fight against tyranny in this country but support it in others.
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Maybe GW Bush was right then, imposing democracy in the region must be taking root.
 
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Conservative said:
Bullcrap, Radical Islam hates us regardless of who we support or what we do.
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This is true. The point to be made here is that Iran was not radically opposed to US interests until the US began siding with the despotic regime of the Shah. Similarly, Egypt, without US interference, may find it's own equilibrium which is not necessarily guaranteed to have much to do with radical islam.... unless external forces push it into the arms of radical Islam by backing the dictatorship.
They hate our way of life and easily sway uneducated people about the evils we offer, yeah, right.
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The radicals do, but they are not yet a majority constituency in Egypt. US FP needs to be geared towards ensuring that it is not associated in the minds of ordinary Egyptians with the repression of the Mubarak years.
Conditions in Iran were much better under the Shah than they are now. Be careful what you wish for because it isn't going to be as good as you think.
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I think you know that this is untrue. Economically, for the majority of ordinary Iranians, life is much better now than under the Shah. If it weren't, the ability of the Ahmadinejad regime to steal the election would have been much, much less.
Guess a lot of ignorant people who always reach out to the U.S. when in need have short memories when it comes to even recent history.
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I haven't seen a lot of reaching for quite some time.
Stop blaming and apologizing for the United States and our way of life, you sound like Obama.
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That's an issue for you US posters to resolve. Nothing to do with the rest of us.
 
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Grant said:
They are not hanging Gays or stoning women by a popular vote.

And do you think a non Muslim could ever run for office in Iran?
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shush! They do too. Iran is a democracy and the people have chosen its direction. Just like Venezuela. Its the will of the people that they hang gays in iran. That is...that they WOULD...if the had gays in Iran. There ARE no gays in Iran. Stop believing the zionist propoganda.
 
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Tucker Case said:
A fat retard and an annoying linguist who, ironically, can't figure out when to STFU are your muses?
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Whatever. Let's talk about the price of crude oil. Did you follow the price rise today?
 
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Andalublue said:
This is true. The point to be made here is that Iran was not radically opposed to US interests until the US began siding with the despotic regime of the Shah. Similarly, Egypt, without US interference, may find it's own equilibrium which is not necessarily guaranteed to have much to do with radical islam.... unless external forces push it into the arms of radical Islam by backing the dictatorship.

The radicals do, but they are not yet a majority constituency in Egypt. US FP needs to be geared towards ensuring that it is not associated in the minds of ordinary Egyptians with the repression of the Mubarak years.
I think you know that this is untrue. Economically, for the majority of ordinary Iranians, life is much better now than under the Shah. If it weren't, the ability of the Ahmadinejad regime to steal the election would have been much, much less.
I haven't seen a lot of reaching for quite some time.

That's an issue for you US posters to resolve. Nothing to do with the rest of us.
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Could have sworn there were protests and demonstrations after the last election in Iran and that the people there have a declining economy having trouble making ends meet. Reaching out to the United States is what many countries do when there is a tragedy of any kind and the people of this country willingly give.

Don't recall that the people of Iran had trouble worshipping their own religion whatever that may be or speaking out against the govt. Of course I was only in my 30's then so may have been too young to be indoctrinated in political correctness.
 
VanceMack said:
shush! They do too. Iran is a democracy and the people have chosen its direction. Just like Venezuela. Its the will of the people that they hang gays in iran. That is...that they WOULD...if the had gays in Iran. There ARE no gays in Iran. Stop believing the zionist propoganda.
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I also love the way they treat women in Iran, a real model for the rest of the world.
 
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Conservative said:
Maybe GW Bush was right then, imposing democracy in the region must be taking root.
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I agree. It is ironic that the Egyptians hated the Iraq War and our intervention, yet it has spawned revolutions, or at least the beginnings of revolutions, in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, ... Our invasion of Iraq was the construction of a democratic political weapon that now finds outlets across the Middle East. Well done, W!

I do think that Obama is playing his hand well, in these events. Credit to him.
 
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Tucker Case said:
A fat retard and an annoying linguist who, ironically, can't figure out when to STFU are your muses?
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I have a feeling that Albert and Alfons are socks and being just slightly disingenuous in their responses. Understatement.
 
Conservative said:
I also love the way they treat women in Iran, a real model for the rest of the world.
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Hey now...stop it. Women are treated GLORIOUSLY. Women are spared the burden of reading, or property ownership, or having to select from your evil western wardrobes. A little bitch slap now and then serves them well to help them remember that they are blessed.
 
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Andalublue said:
I have a feeling that Albert and Alfons are socks and being just slightly disingenuous in their responses. Understatement.
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ADS is not Alfons. If ADS was a sock puppet he would have been banned by now because moderation is looking for any excuse to do so. Don't you like the third person narrative style?:)

I am not being disingenuous. I am a conservative radical who is a polemicist and provacateur. I do not care about what happens overseas except to the extent it can be used for domestic political purposes against the American left. No pain. No gain.
 
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Conservative said:
Maybe GW Bush was right then, imposing democracy in the region must be taking root.
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If it is should we support Mubarak or the people?
 
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Albert Di Salvo said:
Whatever.
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No, I'm very interested in your choice of muses. Why did you pick a fat retard and an annoying linguist to be your muses? There are a lot of better options around the world, especial,ly for a Chinese butterfly.

Let's talk about the price of crude oil. Did you follow the price rise today?
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I thought the market reacted surprisingly calmly.
 
VanceMack said:
Hey now...stop it. Women are treated GLORIOUSLY. Women are spared the burden of reading, or property ownership, or having to select from your evil western wardrobes. A little bitch slap now and then serves them well to help them remember that they are blessed.
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Thus my statement, you thought I was being facetious?
 
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Dirty Harry said:
If it is should we support Mubarak or the people?
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We should support anyone that has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood. Not sure the people even know what they are protesting
 
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Albert Di Salvo said:
I do not care about what happens overseas except to the extent it can be used for domestic political purposes against the American left. No pain. No gain.
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Why would a Chinese butterfly (Phengaris xiushani by chance?) be so interested in attacking the US left?
 
Conservative said:
Thus my statement, you thought I was being facetious?
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You thought I wasnt being satirical? ;)

Damned great satanist!

On the plus side...Egyptian men and women are likely to soon enjoy the freedoms and 'democracy' known by Iranians...
 
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