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Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

No, I think we all know there is trouble. But continuing on like there is no problem, and then spending more is absurd.


j-mac

Everyone knows there is a problem, especially those people out of work, but it didn't just happen yesterday. Where was your outrage as Bush doubled the debt while the economy was booming? You seem to think Beck discovered the debt problem all on his own. Ross Perot has been there before.

Are you just as outraged at wasting a trillion dollars in Iraq?

A republican with some balls...............http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/nj_gov_christie_says_us_should.html


Bushs last budget......3.2 trillion
Obamas 2012 budget....3.7 trillion.
 
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Everyone knows there is a problem, especially those people out of work, but it didn't just happen yesterday. Where was your outrage as Bush doubled the debt while the economy was booming? You seem to think Beck discovered the debt problem all on his own. Ross Perot has been there before.


Oh I see, so I can't say anything now, because I didn't say anything then? How is that not a fallacy?


j-mac
 
Oh I see, so I can't say anything now, because I didn't say anything then? How is that not a fallacy?


j-mac
You didn't say anything then. I did.
That just shows you are a partisan hack.
I was more outraged at Bushs deficits because the economy was in good shape at that time. Now that the economy sucks and much of the spending is to keep it from going into a depression it's a little different.
 
Everyone knows there is a problem, especially those people out of work, but it didn't just happen yesterday. Where was your outrage as Bush doubled the debt while the economy was booming? You seem to think Beck discovered the debt problem all on his own. Ross Perot has been there before.

Are you just as outraged at wasting a trillion dollars in Iraq?

A republican with some balls...............Gov. Christie says U.S. should raise Social Security retirement age | NJ.com


Bushs last budget......3.2 trillion
Obamas 2012 budget....3.7 trillion.

Many were annoyed with Bush spending, which is one of the reasons why his numbers ultimately went so low.

But of course we also have to deal with the present rather than just pointing fingers. It's a matter of whatcha gonna do now.
 
You didn't say anything then. I did.
That just shows you are a partisan hack.
I was more outraged at Bushs deficits because the economy was in good shape at that time. Now that the economy sucks and much of the spending is to keep it from going into a depression it's a little different.

He didn't say anything and is therefore a "partisan hack"?

You must spend a lot of time being "outraged".
 
He didn't say anything and is therefore a "partisan hack"?

You must spend a lot of time being "outraged".

Well, he believed out of control spending was perfectly fine when a republican president did it but, he was totally outraged when a democrat does it. That is a partisan hack.
 
Many were annoyed with Bush spending, which is one of the reasons why his numbers ultimately went so low.

But of course we also have to deal with the present rather than just pointing fingers. It's a matter of whatcha gonna do now.

You're right. They screwed it up, now Obama can fix it.
 
He didn't say anything and is therefore a "partisan hack"?

You must spend a lot of time being "outraged".

Or he's just trying to fit it.

The buzzphrase "partisan hack" seems to be the coin of this particular realm.
 
Many were annoyed with Bush spending, which is one of the reasons why his numbers ultimately went so low.

But of course we also have to deal with the present rather than just pointing fingers. It's a matter of whatcha gonna do now.

Annoyed? Thats laughable.
 
George Friedman offers some sobering analysis.

Of course, there is the feeling, as there was in 2009 with the Tehran demonstrations, that something unheard of has taken place, as U.S. President Barack Obama has implied. It is said to have something to do with Twitter and Facebook. We should recall that, in our time, genuine revolutions that destroyed regimes took place in 1989 and 1979, the latter even before there were PCs. Indeed, such revolutions go back to the 18th century. None of them required smartphones, and all of them were more thorough and profound than what has happened in Egypt so far. This revolution will not be “Twitterized.” The largest number of protesters arrived in Tahrir Square after the Internet was completely shut down.

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The Egyptian government is hardly in a position to confront Israel, even if it wanted to. The Egyptian army has mostly American equipment and cannot function if the Americans don’t provide spare parts or contractors to maintain that equipment. There is no Soviet Union vying to replace the United States today. Re-equipping and training a military the size of Egypt’s is measured in decades, not weeks. Egypt is not going to war any time soon. But then the new rulers have declared that all prior treaties — such as with Israel — will remain in effect.
[...]

[...]It is not that nothing happened in Egypt, and it is not that it isn’t important. It is simply that what happened was not what the media portrayed but a much more complex process, most of it not viewable on TV. Certainly, there was nothing unprecedented in what was achieved or how it was achieved. It is not even clear what was achieved. Nor is it clear that anything that has happened changes Egyptian foreign or domestic policy. It is not even clear that those policies could be changed in practical terms regardless of intent.

The week began with an old soldier running Egypt. It ended with different old soldiers running Egypt with even more formal power than Mubarak had. This has caused worldwide shock and awe. We were killjoys in 2009, when we said the Iranian revolution wasn’t going anywhere. We do not want to be killjoys now, since everyone is so excited and happy. But we should point out that, in spite of the crowds, nothing much has really happened yet in Egypt. It doesn’t mean that it won’t, but it hasn’t yet.
Read more: Egypt: The Distance Between Enthusiasm and Reality | STRATFOR

Egypt: The Distance Between Enthusiasm and Reality | STRATFOR
 
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Well, he believed ouf control spending was perfectly fine when a republican president did it ot but, he was totally outraged when a democrat does it. That is a partisan hack.

Perhaps you can offer the quote where he said "out of control spending is perfectly fine when a republican president does it"?
 
Annoyed? Thats laughable.

Laughable? How so?

Many people complained of Bush overspending and still do, and that over the top spending brought his approval numbers down to record lows.
 
You're right. They screwed it up, now Obama can fix it.

And how's he doing so far? Is that balanced budget anywhere is sight?

Maybe he just needs another four years and then he'll get all his **** together.

Say, that could be his campaign slogan!
 
And how's he doing so far? Is that balanced budget anywhere is sight?

Maybe he just needs another four years and then he'll get all his **** together.

Say, that could be his campaign slogan!

Obama never promised to balance the budget. That's ridiculous. Every rational person knew balancing the budget was impossible after the mess Bush left. Just avoiding a depression was Obama's goal.
I do have news for you. Things are going to get much worse and there ain't a damm thing anyone can do about it.
 
Obama never promised to balance the budget. That's ridiculous. Every rational person knew balancing the budget was impossible after the mess Bush left. Just avoiding a depression was Obama's goal.
I do have news for you. Things are going to get much worse and there ain't a damm thing anyone can do about it.

You're right. He only promised to reduce the deficit by 50% in his first year.

I believe that things are going to get much worse before they get better, that's probably the "Change" he had in mind. And as for the "Hope" part, you summed it up quite well with "there ain't a damm thing anyone can do about it". From Hope to Hopelessness.

That's BHO, and anyone who was foolish enough to vote for him.

Here are some memories to light up the corners of our minds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU

I especially like the part about no corporate bailouts.
 
But you would agree that the "Hope and Change" BHO promised has led to hopelessness and plenty of changes for the worse. Did you actually vote for this boob?
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I didn't vote for that last two boobs that became president. The one that ruined the country and the one that tried to clean up his mess. I don't care for either party.
 
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