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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then they go to war, likely with Israel soundly defeating them by themselves if not with the help of allies.

    If you're wrong then the US needlessly continues to support a dictatorship and continues to be an enemy to democracy and freedom in that land.
    What if you're wrong? The Islamic Army defeats the IDF, slaughters hundreds of thousands of Israelis, closes the Suez Canal and the Straits of Hormuz and holds the world hostage.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    This is where I get to ask you how you know that to be true. Link?
    For one thing, we have an iranian who posts on this board who's still involved. It's underground, not in the streets, but the desire of the Iranian people for freedom and democracy continues to exist.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    On the flipside for you then Catz....were you one of those that was decrying the horrors and wrongness of the Iraqi War and how irresponsible it was for us to be trying to "spread democracy" and "bring freedom" to people?
    Actually, no. I supported it initially. I'm not anti-war and I felt there were legitimate reasons to remove Hussein from power. However, i feel that the aftermath was poorly executed and planned, and I'm not a fan of Bush's position on torture.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What if you're wrong? The Islamic Army defeats the IDF, slaughters hundreds of thousands of Israelis, closes the Suez Canal and the Straits of Hormuz and holds the world hostage.
    Highly unlikely. Israel is likely to nuke Egypt before this would happen. Israel holds a tactical and weapons advantage.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Zyphlin;1059257752]The U.S. has been supporting welfare for moer than 30 years. I take it then you're in favor of that continuing indefinitely too?
    Indefinitely? Elections scheduled for Sept. 2011 in Egypt


    That's to be seen based on what the people of this country do with their won freedom. Its thier right to determine it.
    I asked what if you are wrong. Who fills the vacuum of leadership in Egypt?


    If they fill it, then we deal with them as we would deal with any other country whose government may be against our aims. But we should not be stopping these people from attaining Democracy.
    Right, just like we have dealt with Iran. Are the people better off in Iran than they were prior to radical Islam taking over? It is a lot easier protesting for your freedom than it is actually getting your freedom. Think that Iranians are free?

    How many revolutions in that part of the world have came about specifically due to a desire to have a democracy?

    And even if the end result IS a government that is counter to our goals, so be it. We deal with them like we deal with others. Now if that new governments goes against the peoples wishes and turns the Democracy into a dictatorship, then once again if the people rise up we should give them support.
    Every revolution in the region started out with the demand for freedom and democracy and look who stepped in. I suggest better research on racial Islam and their goal

    But simply be honest. Do you, and others that declare themselves on the right, give a **** about Democracy or do you give a crap about doing what's best for your political world view and what you think is best for us. If its the latter, so be it, but I don't want to hear this bull**** about how great it was we are "spreading democracy" and us giving the "iraqi's freedom" because its obvious that's bull****.
    I care about the security of this country and stopping radical Islam. What exactly do you care about?

    Because elections in Egypt are as legitimate as elections in Iran.
    You think the elections in Iraq were legitimate? So in your world then you overthrow the govt. to create what?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Highly unlikely. Israel is likely to nuke Egypt first.
    That's a no win situation.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What if you're wrong? The Islamic Army defeats the IDF, slaughters hundreds of thousands of Israelis, closes the Suez Canal and the Straits of Hormuz and holds the world hostage.
    Israel has one of the strongest militaries in the world, one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world, and is in a very defensible position all while having a close ally that is the strongest military in the world. I think taking your hypothetical seriously is the equivilent of taking the hypothetical of what the ramifications would be if the Park View Patriots of the AA Division for Virginia High School Football blows out the New England Patriots by 40 points while shattering Tom Brady's femur.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I asked what if you are wrong. Who fills the vacuum of leadership in Egypt?
    The representatives selected by the people of Egypt.

    Why do you find democracy so threatening?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's a no win situation.
    Which is why an invasion by Egypt is never going to happen.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The representatives selected by the people of Egypt.

    Why do you find democracy so threatening?
    I have no problem with democracy at all. What are you afraid of, elections are scheduled in Egypt in September so why overthrow the govt. now?

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