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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

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    Radical Islam is going to hate any country that is allied with Israel; period.

    We sent millions--possibly billions--in aid to Palestine and those bastards still cheered in the streets when 3,000 Americans were murdered by Islamofacists.
    Radical Islam, Islamists, and even many in just plain Islam, do not like America regardless of Israel.

    Arabs, and some of the the rest of Muslim World, 'Turned on their TV sets' in the second half of the 20th c and realized they were failures and Backwards. We, and especially Israel in their midst, stand an ongoing and tremendous Humiliation to the Arab/Muslim pride.

    Arabs have a culture deeply rooted in 'Pride and humiliation'.
    This complex must be considered in any dealings in the area. Also called placating the Arab 'Street'.

    One of the problems in 'Palestinians' not accepting any deals offered for statehood has been this idea of losing face/pride.
    Unable to accept anything less than 100% is just too much for them.

    America's biggest problem with those in the area is not Israel, but a successful free country having proved Islam is mebbe not all that Big Mo says it's was cracked up to be. America as well, founded by Enlightened Christians, not Holy Book hang-ups/Koranic literalists, but men who were able to distinguish and guarantee what was fair for all.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If it were a picture of a guy holding a sign saying, "down with the Nazis", would you be asking the same question?
    what a ridiculous question.

    the guy holding the sign is advocating for the destruction of the entire population of peoples in Gaza. he is not holding a sign that says 'down with terrorists' (to which i absolutely agree with). he is calling for the total destruction of everyone in Gaza. over 1.5 million people including 800,00 children.

    unless of course you are suggesting they are all terrorists.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    what a ridiculous question.

    the guy holding the sign is advocating for the destruction of the entire population of peoples in Gaza. he is not holding a sign that says 'down with terrorists' (to which i absolutely agree with). he is calling for the total destruction of everyone in Gaza. over 1.5 million people including 800,00 children.

    unless of course you are suggesting they are all terrorists.
    No he's not. Why do equate that with destroying an entire people? I believe he's advocating the destruction of the Islamofacist movement.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No he's not. Why do equate that with destroying an entire people? I believe he's advocating the destruction of the Islamofacist movement.
    yes he is.
    the sign says 'until ALL of Gaza is destroyed the job is not done'

    the Gaza strip currently holds approx 1.5 million people.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    yes he is.
    the sign says 'until ALL of Gaza is destroyed the job is not done'

    the Gaza strip currently holds approx 1.5 million people.
    I've seen similar "Death to Israel" signs.



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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I've seen similar "Death to Israel" signs.
    yep. so have i. they're disgusting too.

    i might just take a moment to remind you that i'm not the one judging an entire group of people by the actions of a few. that was my whole point of posting the picture to start with.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

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    Because America is dependent on foreign sources of energy.
    40% of our oil comes from US sources, but even though we are using foreign sources for 60% oil it doesn't mean that the money is going into foreign hands.

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    That is a recipe for the destruction of social cohesion in America.
    When presenting a fear-based argument, everything is portrayed as a "recipe for the destruction of social cohesion in America". Doesn't mean it actually is such a thing, though.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    yep. so have i. they're disgusting too.

    i might just take a moment to remind you that i'm not the one judging an entire group of people by the actions of a few. that was my whole point of posting the picture to start with.
    Okay, and I haven't read every post in this long thread, so correct me if I'm wrong, but if there is anti-Israel sentiment being expressed violently in Palestine (say), or a riot protesting Israel, you would try to get us to understand where you believe those sentiments are stemming from, right?
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    40% of our oil comes from US sources, but even though we are using foreign sources for 60% oil it doesn't mean that the money is going into foreign hands.



    When presenting a fear-based argument, everything is portrayed as a "recipe for the destruction of social cohesion in America". Doesn't mean it actually is such a thing, though.
    Generally, crude oil is fungible. Except for nation to nation deals like the ones worked out by the Chinese, the price of crude oil is established by the commodities market. That is outside American control without additional production from this country.

    By your own calculations sixty percent of the funds spent by Americans on crude oil goes to foreign producers. This is a transfer of wealth out of America and into foreign coffers.

    Fear and anger are powerful motivators. Like lightening on a rainy night stampeding a herd. Time will tell who is correct.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Okay, and I haven't read every post in this long thread, so correct me if I'm wrong, but if there is anti-Israel sentiment being expresses violently in Palestine (say), or a riot protesting Israel, you would try to get us to understand where those sentiments are stemming from, right?
    you don't have to read every post, it's just been over the last few pages. i posted initially to say why i thought using extreme cases and trying to paint everyone with the same brush was wrong. and i stand by that.

    not every Palestinian is an evil terrorist or 'bastard' and dances in the streets when Americans are killed. not every American is calling for the destruction of Gaza like the idiot holding that sign.

    that was my point.
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