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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I agree. But he needs to do his job. He needs to stay in the white house and manage a cisis of this magnitude instead of going to parties.
    This isn't our crisis and there really isn't anything for him to manage. Best if he just keeps quiet and waits for the outcome. He really should not take sides. He is just being smart.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It comes down to convenience. The mujahideen were hardly terrorist when we were dealing with them on the field of combat against the Soviets. They were just religious nuts. But on 9/11, when they attacked civilians for the sake of political murder (the now named Tali-ban and Al-Queda) were. Of course, Al-Queda was named a terrorist organization back when they were murdering military personnel abroad throughout the 90s but who gave a **** about that.

    You see, the way this works is that if you can somehow show an American boot or check in the vicinity of today's offenders decades and decades ago then America gets the blame. God only knows what small thing today will one day pass hands, evolve, twist out, and culminate into another reason to drag the U.S. through the mud by our hypocritical critics who today look towards us to solve all the god damn problems that originally started with them.
    That's quite right.

    When the Americans were helping these people fight the Russian invaders they certainly weren't terrorists. That came much later. Yet the BBC will tell the more impressionable Brits that the Americans funded terrorism and they'll believe it, with no questions asked.

    The British government should step in and put a stop to the publicly funded propaganda that goes on in the UK. It's creating a nation of idiots

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    This isn't our crisis and there really isn't anything for him to manage. Best if he just keeps quiet and waits for the outcome. He really should not take sides. He is just being smart.
    I don't agree. Egypt is an American client state. Obama uses the Egyptian military and police for purposes of extraordinary rendition. That means all the information and documentation of America's war on terror will now fall into the hands of America's enemies in the region.

    American warships will no longer be able to count on transit of the Suez Canal in the event of a military crisis. This is simply a calamity of the first order for America. And Obama is in charge, so he will be blamed. That's the way the American political system works.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yes...but they do it by a popular vote...
    They are not hanging Gays or stoning women by a popular vote.

    And do you think a non Muslim could ever run for office in Iran?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are not hanging Gays or stoning women by a popular vote.

    And do you think a non Muslim could ever run for office in Iran?
    This is a perfect example of history repeating itself. In Iran the people believed they would be better off without the Shah and Jimmy Carter lost Iran. Today the people believe they will be better off without the current govt. and Obama is about to lose Egypt. The winner is the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamic nutjobs.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I don't agree. Egypt is an American client state. Obama uses the Egyptian military and police for purposes of extraordinary rendition. That means all the information and documentation of America's war on terror will now fall into the hands of America's enemies in the region.

    American warships will no longer be able to count on transit of the Suez Canal in the event of a military crisis. This is simply a calamity of the first order for America. And Obama is in charge, so he will be blamed. That's the way the American political system works.
    I disagree. We may use Egypt, but this crisis is a revolution in which we can not take sides.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    I disagree. We may use Egypt, but this crisis is a revolution in which we can not take sides.
    Radical Islam has already taken sides, American business in Egypt is being looted and cries of "Down with America" are being heard all over the area.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    I disagree. We may use Egypt, but this crisis is a revolution in which we can not take sides.
    Actually, one always wants to be on the winning side. Always.

    The Egyptian Revolution will become hostile to America because American interests were allied with the oppressors. This is pretty straight forward stuff. Metaphor: Roosting Vultures Eating The Liver Of Prometheus.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Who is up next? I don't know. Maybe the House of Saud. If the Saudis have a brain in their heads they will accommodate Iranian interests.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    How do you know?
    Well, nobody can ever know for sure, but I have a pretty good understanding of what other people can follow when I write.

    Of course, for that particular post, the reader would also require at least a rudimentary understanding of geography as well in order to get it, but since you only focused on the editing, I can be reasonably assured that most people could follow it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    That's a joke right?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    America's vital national interests are not affected by Turkish/Armenian relations. My gawd, you're grasping at straws.
    A significant positive accomplishment is a significant positive accomplishment. You can try to move the goalposts, but that won't change the fact that it was a significant positive accomplishment.


    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I love it when people take positions that can't be defended.
    I love it when people miss the irony in a comment.

    Are you an American?
    Yes. Are you an Ethiopian?

    Most Americans are interested in furthering the national interests of the American people, not the Muslim Brotherhood.
    Most people are clueless about what their real national interests are. They simply believe what they are told by their chosen political party.

    That's one of the reasons an appeal to popularity is a fallacy. If the handlers tell them that "promoting democracy" in a certain region is in their national interests, they will support it.

    Nevermind that democracy doesn't always lead to the political regime that is in the best interests of the US, that's how the sheep are fed. Hwo else would the politicians get away with "nation-building"?

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