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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Are you serious, all you have to do is turn on the T.V. and see with your own eyes. your funny
    I see a few thousand protestors. Egypt's population is 80 million.

    D'oh.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    I just read something to the effect that the Muslim Brotherhood and ElBaradei are forming a unity govt? Anybody else see or hear anything to this effect?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In terms of military power, the United States spends more than the next 20 countries combined. There is no way that we're going to be significantly challenged in this arena anytime soon.
    military spending alone is a useless measure of success in any given war. read sun tzu and you'll see that it's true. we've outspent alqueda by a factor of a million, and they've successfully used our own power against us. the big spender win in vietname, or the american revolution? when you're using your military spending to oppress people in their homeland time and time again it has shown to be a waste of money.
    In terms of economic power, the American economy is one of the most vibrant in the world. It isn't growing as fast as some other large countries, but that's because developing countries tend to grow faster because there is more room for growth.
    compare the portions of our gdp today that are due to things such as financial services or health care or any other sector that doesn't actually provide any production, to the proportion it was 40 years ago. you'll quickly see, despite statistics to the contrary, that we don't produce as much as you think we do. a majority of our gdp is just debt, our economic superiority is a myth based on the faith of the world in our currency. once that finally wanes we'll have nothing else to back it up.

    as much as the next person, i don't want to see a decline of american power in the world. but there's no hope of maintaining it while we lie to ourselves. if we take an honest look at the situation we can start to devise workable measures to fix it.
    Democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep willing to contest the vote.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This has nothing to do with anything being discussed. Fail.
    It has Everything to do with what's being discussed.

    You not only "Failed", you made a nonsense post and had your inaccurate/Blame America politics outed too.
    Thus your mocking, but actually embarrassed, emoticon.

    again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar
    1950 - US occupies Korea
    1973 - US saves Kim Dae-Jung
    1987 - Korea first has a democratic election

    I'd hardly call that imposing democracy on them. The US didn't give a damn about Korean democracy.
    When it evolved, we helped them manage the transition, but it was almost entirely homegrown. We were just fine with occupying the country for 37 years without demanding democracy, so it's pretty hard to make the argument that they were just bowing to our whims by establishing one.
    Or we could have done nothing and had a larger North Korea.

    The "Blame America" camp is a very selective view of history.
    What's amazing is how widespread it is despite it's jaded and unfair outlook.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I just read something to the effect that the Muslim Brotherhood and ElBaradei are forming a unity govt? Anybody else see or hear anything to this effect?
    This is from Israeli media: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood eyes unity gov't without Mubarak - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    If the Muslim Brotherhood joins a unity govt. imo they will ultimately purge all other coalition mates. If this happens it's game over for the American position in the Greater Middle East. If this happens while Barack Obama is president, he will take all of the blame.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Who are you. We haven't been introduced.
    Sorry about that, hello luca, my name is 24107 and im just another person posting on a forum because im bored.im sorry im not a president or something to make you feel like your in some sort of exclusive club for geniouses.
    America has destroyed itself for several reasons. One reason contributing to the fall is that America has diverted its resources in attempting to promote democracy
    Like Iraq? where the pretext for attacking was it was falsely said they had nukes. and over a million iraqs have died and their country ruined and shattered for years to come? im sure the iraqs see it that way, especially the ones whose loved ones are no longer breathing, and sectarian wars have broken out as the result of an invasion, i dont think iraq sent an S.O.S. to anyone to come bomb them. as far as diversion of resources, did you forget it is the oil in iraq, that the resources are being diverted and controlled by foreign nations. A famous U.S. general said ''war is a racket'' google that statement and you will find his name.
    I don't care about any one except Americans. Many Americans share that view.
    If you truly feel that way, you should worry about U.S. taxpayer money being given away by the billions to foreign nations like Egypt, Jordan, and Israel with absolutely nothing in return to your everyday average american citizen.

    Luca, you certainly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed are you?

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    If the Muslim Brotherhood joins a unity govt. imo they will ultimately purge all other coalition mates. If this happens it's game over for the American position in the Greater Middle East. If this happens while Barack Obama is president, he will take all of the blame.
    So tell me Al, do you pray for this every night before you go to bed?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Sorry about that, hello luca, my name is 24107 and im just another person posting on a forum because im bored.im sorry im not a president or something to make you feel like your in some sort of exclusive club for geniouses.

    Like Iraq? where the pretext for attacking was it was falsely said they had nukes. and over a million iraqs have died and their country ruined and shattered for years to come? im sure the iraqs see it that way, especially the ones whose loved ones are no longer breathing, and sectarian wars have broken out as the result of an invasion, i dont think iraq sent an S.O.S. to anyone to come bomb them. as far as diversion of resources, did you forget it is the oil in iraq, that the resources are being diverted and controlled by foreign nations. A famous U.S. general said ''war is a racket'' google that statement and you will find his name.

    If you truly feel that way, you should worry about U.S. taxpayer money being given away by the billions to foreign nations like Egypt, Jordan, and Israel with absolutely nothing in return to your everyday average american citizen.

    Luca, you certainly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
    Nice to meet you luca.

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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So tell me Al, do you pray for this every night before you go to bed?
    Never let a good crisis go to waste. The price of crude oil is going to go up. Who do you think will be blamed? That's right.

    The Muslim Brotherhood is not America's enemy. Iran is not America's enemy. Al Qaeda is not America's enemy. I'm focused on the only force on earth that intends to transform me out of existence. Toward that end, any weapon is legitimate.

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