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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    No......basically I am under the impression that the MB would be better for Egypt than what its like under Mubarek. And the MB is not anywhere the level of what we see in Iran or Saudi Arabia. They are moderates.
    Nothing moderate about the MB. They want Islamic Democracy which is exactly what you will find in Iran.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    RealClearWorld says that Mubarak is meeting with his military commanders right now. I'm guessing they're telling him to GTFO.
    RealClearWorld - Reuters - World - Jan 30, 2011 - Egypt in crisis as Mubarak meets commanders
    The army seems to be acting hostile, there actions can only be interpreted as threatening.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Yeah it's probably a good time for the leader of the free world to grab a hold of those round thingies between his legs and order Mubarak out of Egypt.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Oh, I am so saddened now. That you will not explain things to me. Now I will never understand a thing.
    Well I do explain things to you. I have told you that you are focusing too much on the Muslim Brotherhood's modern day words (and some chosen pieces of writ) and not the reality. They believe in the return of the caliphate and Sharia. Sadat was assassinated by members of the Brotherhood because 1) his deal with Israel, and 2) his willingness to push religion further away from government. Virtually all Arab terrorists in the last 50 years have been members of the Brotherhood. Sayyid Qutb's writings, which declared the U.S. as the enemy of God in the 1950s, is the most influential for the Brotherhood. Osama bin Laden even claimed to have been influenced by the religious and political ideas of several professors with strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    What you hear the Brotherhood speak from behind microphones today is meant to fool people like you who are willing to believe that they are all about freedom, democracy, love, sharing, rainbows, etc. But they are what they have always been.

    I will even give you a link to learn about the Muslim Brotherhood....

    Muslim Brotherhood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now you have no excuse for not understanding things.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    The Egyption air force is making low runs over the crowds with F-16s trying to scare them. I hope this isn't another case of the US selling arms to countries that get turned on their own people and eventually used against US soldiers.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Notice how Mubarak, Suleiman and Shafiq are all former military men. Mubarak is scrambling for military loyalty. Tug of war between protesters and mubarak for the army i think.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Notice how Mubarak, Suleiman and Shafiq are all former military men. Mubarak is scrambling for military loyalty. Tug of war between protesters and mubarak for the army i think.
    Whoever controls the military controls the country. Thanks to the US the Egyption military is a major force.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    No......basically I am under the impression that the MB would be better for Egypt than what its like under Mubarek. And the MB is not anywhere the level of what we see in Iran or Saudi Arabia. They are moderates.
    Are you really this nieve? Al Qaeda is an offshoot group from the brotherhood.
    Ayman Al Zawaheri (Al Qaeda's #2) was is a member of the Egyptian Muslim brotherhood. The Muslim brotherhood is the worst option for Egypt and especially for Israel & the US.

    Also who do you think has been persecuting the copts all these years?

    Oh and the brotherhood had Anwar Sadat assasinated because he made peace with Israel

    The Brotherhood are not moderates the are extreme radicals....
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Whoever controls the military controls the country. Thanks to the US the Egyption military is a major force.
    Not as simple as that, military coups dont always start in the Cabinet.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    The Egyption air force is making low runs over the crowds with F-16s trying to scare them. I hope this isn't another case of the US selling arms to countries that get turned on their own people and eventually used against US soldiers.
    Not our problem. We support the french government. Does that mean the French owe their freedom to us or do they reserve such credit to their own culture? Why then are people so quick to allow cultures, that default to oppression, a way to escape their responsibilities? Do we get to be given credit for cellular technology, which they are using to get information out? Do we get any credit what so ever for any of themodernized facilities in Egypt over the last 30 years that Egyptians rely upon and enjoy? No. But people will damn sure point out an F-16 or a gas canister.
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