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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Don't kid yourself, the tear gas where US made and that was confirmed on the BBC just last night.

    Not too sure they where sold to Egypt knowing that it would be redirected to police forces for use against protesters though - in all fairness, that is.
    So what if the tear gas was made in the US? What difference does it make, unless you're looking for any half ass excuse to beat up on the United States and place all the blame on us?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    After the war against the Soviets, the U.S. largely simply looked away until 9/11. This is what non-meddling does (for which we are obviously also criticized for apparently).
    We are talking during.

    I favor US intervention in some instances, but through diplomatic pressure. That means NOT funding terrorism and NOT supporting autocratic regimes.

    My point is that noneof these governments inthe ME are any different from governments around the world that gets a phone call from Washington. The same is true for themany business deals every single nation out there has with each other. In the end, local culture is to blame. It's just become fashionable to use us as the popular scapegoat.
    I dont think that is entirely true. Nobody here (apart from PeteEU but he doesn't count) is saying the US is responsible. I just think the US should pit its values against its interests more.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So what if the tear gas was made in the US? What difference does it make, unless you're looking for any half ass excuse to beat up on the United States and place all the blame on us?

    You realize how you sound?
    Actually it was just a statement. I mean nothing by it.

    I doubt the US gave it to Egypt on the understanding that it would be used to crush dissent....cant really prove that though, but again, doubt it.
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    Re: "Beginning of the end" for Egypt's Mubarak, as son and wife flee

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Oh sure. All these protestors and global leftists will eventually tie the Tunisias, Egypts and Irans together, but they will senselessy and narrowly cling to the notion that only Iraq's efforts (the biggest positive social disturbance in the recent history) sits outside the regional influence. Eventually, they will even start tying the social andpolitical changes in Saudi, Lebanon, and Syria - but never Iraq where adrenaline was shot into the civilization. It's actually pathetic.
    Unless it all goes bad, then it'll be because of Iraq and by default, the fault of The United States.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is true and that deal was cut back in the 90's, not in 2001. It's far cry from, "creating the Taliban".
    I never said they created the Taliban and my source says 2001, but whatever.

    LOL...there was no mujahadeen, prior to the Soviet invasion. You foreigners sure do get your hands on bad information. It comes as no surprise.
    The best-known mujahideen were the various loosely aligned Afghan opposition groups, which initially rebelled against the incumbent pro-Soviet Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA) government during the late 1970s. At the DRA's request, the Soviet Union intervened. The mujahideen then fought against Soviet and DRA troops during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. After the Soviet Union pulled out of the conflict in the late 1980s the mujahideen fought each other in the subsequent Afghan Civil War.[3]

    Ya'll really need to stop spreading the lies.
    You just said the Mujahideen never existed before the Soviets intervened and now your saying im spreading lies. Do you realize how your beginning to look? Clearly us foreigners are far more up to date with our facts then some.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So what if the tear gas was made in the US? What difference does it make, unless you're looking for any half ass excuse to beat up on the United States and place all the blame on us?
    Not to mention many of the demonstrators are using American i-somethings and all are using Our internet technology to communicate and help their revolution.
    They know who's watching and who counts.
    They know who elected a President name Barak Hussein Obama, who came to/flattered Cairo and told the whole Muslim Ummah that "leaders need to rule by consent, not coersion".
    And they know he meant Egypt too.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I never said they created the Taliban and my source says 2001, but whatever.



    The best-known mujahideen were the various loosely aligned Afghan opposition groups, which initially rebelled against the incumbent pro-Soviet Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA) government during the late 1970s. At the DRA's request, the Soviet Union intervened. The mujahideen then fought against Soviet and DRA troops during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. After the Soviet Union pulled out of the conflict in the late 1980s the mujahideen fought each other in the subsequent Afghan Civil War.[3]



    You just said the Mujahideen never existed before the Soviets intervened and now your saying im spreading lies. Do you realize how your beginning to look? Clearly us foreigners are far more up to date with our facts then some.
    Not if you still believe that the US created the Taliban.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    We are talking during.

    Oh.

    Hey, the big bad wolf was Soviet. Nobody in Europe or America cared about local populations as long as America was winning. But in all fairness, we didn't facilitate the civil war within. Arabs did this (notice how it's always the Sunni Arabs?). Such is the hypocracy of today's criticisms. But had we stayed to direct Afghanis we would have just been criticized for meddling in what wasn't our business anymore. But now, after the Cold War, we all have obligation whether we want to admit it or not. Europe created this mess. America maintained it. Now who's largely stuck alone with dealing with it? When it comes to Egypt, the entire world is interested in what America is going to do...not the French government, not the British government, not any other government. But there is one guarantee - no matter what we do we will be unfairly criticized for it while everybody else simply watched from afar safe from blame.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not if you still believe that the US created the Taliban.
    Wiggle your way out why dont you. I dont believe that by the way and thank you for conceding defeat in the truthfulness test.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Wiggle your way out why dont you. I dont believe that by the way and thank you for conceding defeat in the truthfulness test.
    You didn't even post a link, dude.
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