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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Egyptian Internet activity/Shutdown.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    Yet, all we've heard from you is how the United States is at fault.
    You do a very good job on pointing out Europe's flaws. Maybe that is why


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You do a very good job on pointing out Europe's flaws. Maybe that is why
    as I said, bigotry.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't blame US in its entirety. Europe had a big role as well.

    But it's not Europe with the hand of power now in many of those countries. But it's not for me anyway. The Egyptians will be the judge and jury for how they view the United States and the West.
    It doesn't matter either way. They have come to respect the idea that they are ultimately to blame for their own culture (Muslims slaughtering Muslims on international television tends to look poorly on their ideas of who the enemy is). America gets to be damned for doing business with the tyrant and for taking the tyrant out. After all this time, I believe everyone on the globe can see this. Egyptians know that ultimately we will do business with what ever stability their culture produces. If they manage to overthrow and create stability through democracy, then they know that we will be there just out of sheer basic tenet and belief. But business is business.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't believe the Military will stand against the people. They aren't doing anything from what we can see on Al Jazeera to disperse the crowd.

    That is one guess.
    The other is that it picks up steam, like it did in Tunisia. The second the President of Tunisia started discussing reform, the people pushed for more because they sensed weakness.

    And even more crucially, the Army has not come out in support of Mubarak or the Generals
    I imagine the generals are playing their cards close to their vest, to see where their best interests lie. Afterall, they still want to have a job when the dust settles.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, the last time the military removed the power, Mubarack became prez.
    Oh I didn't mean Nasr (Vali Nasr was my thinking). I mean Nasser. From him it went to Sadat. From Sadat it went to Mubarack (via Taleb). Along the way, the military has been the key legitimator. See I know things.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Anybody else notice how all these Arab leaders who opposed the invasion of Iraq eventually began feeling tremendous pressure from their own people? No? Just that coincidence thing I guess.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Anybody else notice how all these Arab leaders who opposed the invasion of Iraq eventually began feeling tremendous pressure from their own people? No? Just that coincidence thing I guess.
    Yes, definitely coincidence. There's no way that the United States could ever have a positive effect on anything on the world scene.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well, Saudis protesting for more social and political rights off and on also don't mention Iraq. Neither do Syrian political parties who speak on more social and political rights for their people. It's just a big coincidence that all of this has been ramped up across the region since the "purple finger." They will all focus on local grievances, but they all have televisions. Of course, before when Saddam Hussein's government was firmly in place and "contained" by the democratically free loving Western world, none of this was going on to this degree. You protestors have been losing your steam for years. Give it up. None of you had the vision or knowledge necessary to appreciate the bigger picture as you blasted away via sensational temporary headlines.
    You mean there was no revolts before the invasion of Iraq? You sure about that?

    Do you actually have proof that these revolts are inspired by Iraq? Are you clinging on to a desperate validation of a long failed policy? If you have ever checked the news about Iraq, it is not a country people should aspire too.

    Like I said people are chanting Tunisia and waving Tunisian flags in the streets of Egypt, Yemen and others, not Iraq. That is a fact. I would be more convinced by your argument if all this happened half a decade earlier.

    Sorry old boy.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Anybody else notice how all these Arab leaders who opposed the invasion of Iraq eventually began feeling tremendous pressure from their own people? No? Just that coincidence thing I guess.
    Except Egypt didn't oppose the war in Iraq. And Turkey did. Iran didn't mind because you were taking out their enemy. Saudi Arabia didn't say a word about Iraq and let US use their bases and they are in revolt.

    Please logic man, it is useful.
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