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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    He didn't chicken out and Repeatedly backed the rights of the people to demonstrate peacefully.
    and recalled his Cairo speech that a govt should rule by Consent Not Coercion.

    Disappointing was his call for "Dialogue" between the [Coercive] govt and people.

    Tricky position he's in. He's Prez.
    If Mubarrak maintains power- having called for his overthrow.....
    Just as bad: having supported a takeover by a known terrorist group.

    Personally, I think Obama should say as little as possible, so he doesn't get saddled with the fallout.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Well I think it was pathetic but it should be no less than expected tbh.

    Even if Mubarak stays, this is just delaying the inevitable. I don't think those in ME will forget the difference of reaction to the Iran/Egypt protest and I don't know if you were watching Al Jazeera. But the people must be pissed off considering many of teh tear gas and weapons used against them were made in US ... /facepalm
    Ok, now we're blaming the gun for the cime vice the criminal.

    That makes alotta sense. But, hey! Anything to place the blame on the United States.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    For one, I am no bigger liar than President Bush or President Obama, etc.
    Congratulations on your choice of category for yourself. They lie because they are politicians they seek your sheepish/political loyalty. You lie...because why? With all the material freely offerred to you to read, why would you decide to barracade yourself behind politicial rhetorics, slogans, and half truths? Let me guess, since there was no WMD, Iraq was about doing something for the hell of it with absolutely no thought into any future hopeful consequences? You have witnessed the consequences throughout the region over the last few years. Pretending that these people have no social and civilizational tie just to cling to a notion that borders matter in this region is irrational. These tribes transcend borders and they have shared communities long before the advent of these oppressive governments.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's killing the enemy, not terrorism. They brought it upon themselves.
    how are thousands of impoverished women and children your enemy? if they are, you're a weak mother ****er.
    Democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep willing to contest the vote.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    He kinda chickened out. He erred on the side of caution. Egypt is an ally, but we also have to encourage social change. He did little but to encourage civility, which tells the people that we care more about negative stability than positive disruption. Every single modernist in the region needs to know that we are on their side. I hope there is more to this. Bush denied Egypt their annual allowance in (2004?) until they released a liberal writer (who ironically blasts America too) for a proper trial under their own laws.
    He almost has to wait to see how it plays out.
    He's given his 'protection' to the Demonstrations, and called for all communications to be reopened.

    I strongly suspect this President is 'with' the protesters, at least personally.
    Strategically this is about is touchy as it gets.
    Alliances, Arms, etc, very big potential problems.

    IF the demonstrations expand over the weekend and show to be overwhelming will of the people, and IF the Egyptian Army is too heavy-handed, I think you'll see him make another statement Sunday Night, or so, that is less ambiguous.

    Right now his call for "Dialogue" with the govt, I have to say IS somewhat 'chickening out'.
    There really is none with Mubarrak; that's the whole point of the Protest.

    He is supposed to appoint a new cabinet tomorrow.
    I can't foresee that will help.

    Commentators on CNN are saying it all swings on the Military; which apparently is still/so far acting at Mubarrak's orders.
    Protesters, however, are also appealing to the Military, who they like/respect more than the Riot Police.
    Let's see what the weekend brings.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That makes alotta sense. But, hey! Anything to place the blame on the United States.


    I suppose it must feel good to be in your deluded bubble where US gets no responsibility or blame for propping up dictators
    You are right, History and reality must be wrong. US hasn't had a hand in the Middle East for decades


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    how are thousands of impoverished women and children your enemy? if they are, you're a weak mother ****er.
    If they provide aid, comfort and sactuary to AQ, then they are the enemy, as well.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post


    I suppose it must feel good to be in your deluded bubble where US gets no responsibility or blame for propping up dictators
    You are right, History and reality must be wrong. US hasn't had a hand in the Middle East for decades
    Your revised version of history and reality are two different things.

    The United States is no more responsible for Mubarack retaining power than Sarah Palin is for the Safeway shooting. To claim so is the pinnacle of stupidity, or denial of reality, take you pick. I think it has more to do with a natural hatred for Americans, than anything else.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    I guess the Arab world was just biding its time since they became inspired by Iraq becoming a democracy before it revolted...for 6 years . Clearly. It can't be any other reason. None at all. Its kind of confusing how the rioters mention Tunisia....but they never mention Iraq though.

    I wish the Egyptian people the liberal democracy and freedom they want.
    Well, Saudis protesting for more social and political rights off and on also don't mention Iraq. Neither do Syrian political parties who speak on more social and political rights for their people. It's just a big coincidence that all of this has been ramped up across the region since the "purple finger." They will all focus on local grievances, but they all have televisions. Of course, before when Saddam Hussein's government was firmly in place and "contained" by the democratically free loving Western world, none of this was going on to this degree. You protestors have been losing your steam for years. Give it up. None of you had the vision or knowledge necessary to appreciate the bigger picture as you blasted away via sensational temporary headlines.
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