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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    This sounds quite plausible.
    It would have been a brilliant move had he planned it that way.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    In a perfect world they would. Joe and Hillary must not have gotten the memo. Or it could have been a ploy by Obama to cover all the bases in case Mubarak came out on top.

    eh, maybe. But even this is speculation, and we can't know for sure. The only thing I am saying, is that we need to be unified in our message or shut the hell up. We are in this mess because of decades of ME radicals viewing our involvement as meddling in their affairs, rather than the truth of the matter that it was protecting our interests. So, if it is true democratic liberty based revolution then ofcourse I, and I am sure you are all for it. If it is however something more nefarious, then we have a problem.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    eh, maybe. But even this is speculation, and we can't know for sure. The only thing I am saying, is that we need to be unified in our message or shut the hell up. We are in this mess because of decades of ME radicals viewing our involvement as meddling in their affairs, rather than the truth of the matter that it was protecting our interests. So, if it is true democratic liberty based revolution then ofcourse I, and I am sure you are all for it. If it is however something more nefarious, then we have a problem.

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    Since everyone has their own opinion it is impossible to be unified on anything. This still is a free country.

    Meddling in their affairs to protect our interests. Does protecting our interests give us the right to meddle in their affairs? Would we tolerate any country meddling in our affairs to protect their interests? Why would we expect them to?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Since everyone has their own opinion it is impossible to be unified on anything. This still is a free country.
    So we shouldn't expect the Executive branch of our government to have a singular, direct message? Really?

    Meddling in their affairs to protect our interests.
    No, I said that was the perception of the radicals in the ME.

    Does protecting our interests give us the right to meddle in their affairs?
    Tens of Billions of dollars in aid over the years, and we don't have a say? Why is it that you would hold American companies that take your dollars to one standard, yet, hemorrhage Billions to other countries and sit silent?


    Would we tolerate any country meddling in our affairs to protect their interests? Why would we expect them to?

    Are you kidding? China anyone? Hell, Obama is probably practicing his bow at the waist as we type.


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So we shouldn't expect the Executive branch of our government to have a singular, direct message? Really?
    Is that possible? We should get honest answers from everyone even if they disagree with their boss.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    Tens of Billions of dollars in aid over the years, and we don't have a say? Why is it that you would hold American companies that take your dollars to one standard, yet, hemorrhage Billions to other countries and sit silent?
    So bribing their government makes it OK for their citizens?





    Are you kidding? China anyone? Hell, Obama is probably practicing his bow at the waist as we type.
    How is China meddling in our affairs? Do they have military bases here that I don't know about? Our problems with china didn't begin in 2009.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    So bribing their government makes it OK for their citizens?

    What? Wait, who said that? All I am saying is that if we give our dollars to these places then we should have a say, or don't give it! Right?


    How is China meddling in our affairs? Do they have military bases here that I don't know about? Our problems with china didn't begin in 2009.
    OMG, if you are going to be genuine in this discussion then tell me now. The problems didn't start in '09, but unless you are still in the blame everyone else mode, then Obama is at the helm now isn't he?

    Is that possible? We should get honest answers from everyone even if they disagree with their boss.
    And how does that help other than make us look weak and at odds with each other to the world?


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac;1059286661[QUOTE
    What? Wait, who said that? All I am saying is that if we give our dollars to these places then we should have a say, or don't give it! Right?
    Don't give it or at least only humanitarian aid. Propping up other rgimes by giving them money and arms is not a good way to endear ourselves with their citizens


    OMG, if you are going to be genuine in this discussion then tell me now. The problems didn't start in '09, but unless you are still in the blame everyone else mode, then Obama is at the helm now isn't he?
    What is Obama supposed to do about China? It's too late now.
    And how does that help other than make us look weak and at odds with each other to the world?
    It's being honest and shows that people can disagree in a free country. Doesn't make us look weak at all..makes us look free.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by usa_1 View Post
    don't give it or at least only humanitarian aid. Propping up other rgimes by giving them money and arms is not a good way to endear ourselves with their citizens
    Ok, I'm right there with ya. don't give it. But I'll go one step further, humanitarian aid gone as well, we don't have the money! So who do you think steps in?


    What is Obama supposed to do about China? It's too late now.
    What the....? Are you insane? we should just forget about it? We aren't anything, or anyone that can do anything now? What kind of self defeatist crap is this?


    It's being honest and shows that people can disagree in a free country. Doesn't make us look weak at all..makes us look free.
    This is the type of America is not exceptional BS that is the hallmark of the Obama failure as a President. It's weak stick thinking. And yes the rest of the world see's it, and has already exploited it.


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    What the....? Are you insane? we should just forget about it? We aren't anything, or anyone that can do anything now? What kind of self defeatist crap is this?



    That's not an answer. What should he do now? We owe them a fortune. They have taken many of our jobs and we can not compete with their cost of labor. Just what should Obama do about China? Do you have an answer?
    Insane? Thats a real intelligent response.
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