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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    So is Biden. He was wrong too. Just like the last administration they all aren't on the same page and speak their own mind.

    Yes, agreed. Isn't that a problem?

    And that being so, then their message was not "no message" as you painted earlier, but rather a mixed message.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    Yes, agreed. Isn't that a problem?

    And that being so, then their message was not "no message" as you painted earlier, but rather a mixed message.

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    Obama really had no message except he supported the demonstrators and wanted Mubarak to make concessions. He didn't suggest he step down until it was obvious he was going to lose power. The rest of the government, congressmen, pundits, presidential candidates, analysts all had their own message.

    Do you think Obama handled it correctly? What should he have done?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Obama really had no message except he supported the demonstrators and wanted Mubarak to make concessions. He didn't suggest he step down until it was obvious he was going to lose power. The rest of the government, congressmen, pundits, presidential candidates, analysts all had their own message.

    Do you think Obama handled it correctly? What should he have done?
    I think he did well. I especially like his immediate reaction to Clinton's and The envoy dude's comments in Munich (or whereever in Germany) supporting Mubarak. Obama immediately countered that message with his own and said that "regime change starts NOW". This was followed up by Gibbs the next day saying "NOW started yesterday".

    Right on Mr. President.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    I think he did well. I especially like his immediate reaction to Clinton's and The envoy dude's comments in Munich (or whereever in Germany) supporting Mubarak. Obama immediately countered that message with his own and said that "regime change starts NOW". This was followed up by Gibbs the next day saying "NOW started yesterday".

    Right on Mr. President.
    We are in agreement.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Obama really had no message except he supported the demonstrators and wanted Mubarak to make concessions. He didn't suggest he step down until it was obvious he was going to lose power. The rest of the government, congressmen, pundits, presidential candidates, analysts all had their own message.

    Do you think Obama handled it correctly? What should he have done?

    I think in the end there wasn't much he could do but what he did. Listen your hindsight is a little skewed I think.....




    And at the same time Gibbs was saying



    markedly different messages, now since Gibbs is the President's mouth to the press, and Biden the VP does this show the world a unified message? No, I think not, and rather sloppy.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think in the end there wasn't much he could do but what he did. Listen your hindsight is a little skewed I think.....

    And at the same time Gibbs was saying

    markedly different messages, now since Gibbs is the President's mouth to the press, and Biden the VP does this show the world a unified message? No, I think not, and rather sloppy.

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    **** Biden, Clinton and any other subordinate who knows what the President wants his message to be and disagrees, so they promote their own message. The same bull**** happened under Bush.

    Mixed messages is very bad, but not correcting the wrong message is worse. Unfortunately, well fortunately I mean but the Green Revolution message was wrong, Obama changed his tune between the Green Revolution of Iran and the White Revolution of Egypt.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think in the end there wasn't much he could do but what he did. Listen your hindsight is a little skewed I think.....




    And at the same time Gibbs was saying



    markedly different messages, now since Gibbs is the President's mouth to the press, and Biden the VP does this show the world a unified message? No, I think not, and rather sloppy.

    j-mac
    I said Biden wasn't on the same page as the president. Unlike Biden, Obama was very cautious about what he said and who he supported. I never said they had a united message.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    **** Biden, Clinton and any other subordinate who knows what the President wants his message to be and disagrees, so they promote their own message. The same bull**** happened under Bush.

    Mixed messages is very bad, but not correcting the wrong message is worse. Unfortunately, well fortunately I mean but the Green Revolution message was wrong, Obama changed his tune between the Green Revolution of Iran and the White Revolution of Egypt.
    ****Biden? He is the VP of the United States. Shouldn't those running this country at least be unified before they open their pie holes?


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ****Biden? He is the VP of the United States. Shouldn't those running this country at least be unified before they open their pie holes?


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    In a perfect world they would. Joe and Hillary must not have gotten the memo. Or it could have been a ploy by Obama to cover all the bases in case Mubarak came out on top.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    In a perfect world they would. Joe and Hillary must not have gotten the memo. Or it could have been a ploy by Obama to cover all the bases in case Mubarak came out on top.
    This sounds quite plausible.

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