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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Fair enough, but don't forget that the Southern Democrats defected over to the Republicans at that time and the Republicans gained their southern conservative base, along with all the racist bull**** too.

    There you go again. And all this time I thought it was supposed to be repubs that did the misrepresenting. I tell ya. Whenever I hear of truly racist crap, its usually a lib behind it. Take this for example....

    Thursday, progressive protesters are shown calling for violent attacks on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas while protesting outside a summit billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch held last week in Palm Springs, Calif.

    Asked by the filmmaker to say what he would like to do to Thomas, one protester says: “put him back in the fields.”

    “He’s a scumbag,” the man says. “He’s a dumb **** scumbag.” The man also said Thomas’s colleague, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, “should go back to Sicily.”

    A young woman at the rally said that though she was “all about peace,” she would like for Thomas to undergo “torture.”

    Two other protesters appear to call for Thomas’s death. When asked what should happen to Thomas, one person says “hang him” while another protester says “string him up.”

    Read more: Anti-Koch progressives call for violent acts against Justice Clarence Thomas at rally | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    People are working so hard to give credit for Egypt's revolution to Obama, that there's no way they can ever admit that IRaq had anything to do with it.
    The only credit Obama deserves is that he decided not to support Mubarak when the so many in the US wanted him to
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The only credit Obama deserves is that he decided not to support Mubarak when the so many in the US wanted him to

    Actually Obama and administration was just inept enough to stumble into doing the right thing.


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually Obama and administration was just inept enough to stumble into doing the right thing.


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually Obama and administration was just inept enough to stumble into doing the right thing.


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    The right thing? Not according to many right wingers.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The only credit Obama deserves is that he decided not to support Mubarak when the so many in the US wanted him to
    Or......if an Iranian style Islamist type regime ends up eventually taking over, he'll get credit for that one too.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Or......if an Iranian style Islamist type regime ends up eventually taking over, he'll get credit for that one too.
    Only idiots would blame Obama for that, just as only idiots blame carte for iran
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There you go again. And all this time I thought it was supposed to be repubs that did the misrepresenting. I tell ya. Whenever I hear of truly racist crap, its usually a lib behind it. Take this for example....



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    Well, yeah. The Dixiecrats stayed with the Dems and those aren't the only racists. Their on both sides. This doesn't refute the fact that the Southern Dems were behind the Dems opposition to Civil Rights.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Understand the culture and then preach about what you consider consistent.

    Persians (converts) are not Sunni. Turks (converts), though influenced by Sunni, are not Arabs. Iran is seperate from the rest and will have little influenceon what Sunni Arab populations do. And with the Ottoman's abolishing the caliphate in the 1920s, I would think you would move on from the idea that they inspired anything in the Arab world. Recent history has been recorded in phases....

    1) The "Era of Independence" saw these nations freed from colonial powers. This was facilitated by Europe's inability to sustain their long arm in the 1950s after WWII. The common theme amongst all Arab nations was military coup.

    2) The end of the Cold War saw the Soviet Union and America release their grips on these nations all over the world. For a brief period, we simply looked away. The 9/11 happened. With Tunisia, we see the dominoes falling. Was this facilitated by Saudi Arabia who allowed low level elections for Muslims for the first time in history in 2005? Or was it facilitated by Iraqis who were the first Arabs in history to vote on the laws that would govern them on international television in 2005 and then again in 2010? Is democracy yet another common theme amongst Arab nations today? What will this era be labeled?

    You may wish to believe Tammarlain's notion that a culture far removed from the Muslim world and definately from the Arab world inspired them from Georgia's activities in 2003. Or you may prefer to acknowledge that all these Arab populations are seeing each other, but Iraq sits in a bubble that can't be seen. Or that an Iranian activist was the only Muslim in the region tuning in. What is bizarre is how stubborn the lot of you are and how easily you can dismiss the fact that their inspiration came from whithin their own culture. With all of the West proving the potential of healthy democracy for centuries, nothing in the Arab world was inspired until Iraqis voted within their own culture and proved it possible.
    You still avoided answering why Persians could be influenced by Arabs and not vice versa, and continue to obfuscate on a simple question albeit with an enjoyable, well written historical summary. Is this not sophistry?

    You're simply not consistent, your ''evidence'' is collected on an a priori assumption, anything that doesn't fit is ignored and only the already convinced would be persuaded by it. You can't find a single person in the Arab world demonstrating now who said they were inspired by purple fingers.

    I'll let you and LT accuse either side of being paternalistic towards the Arabs.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    People are working so hard to give credit for Egypt's revolution to Obama, that there's no way they can ever admit that IRaq had anything to do with it.
    Haven't really followed the American medias take on this. If Obama is being credited I'm truly lost for words.

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