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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    FLASH: CNN: Obama to speak in Next 5 Minutes on Egypt.
    Got it on and waiting. Let's see what President Obama has to say. I know what I'd say.

    Uh oh...sounds to me that they want exactly what their Iraqi neighbors have been doing. Before the "Iraqi vote" this would not have occurred. And do we really think that women driving in Saudi Arabia would have occurred? Or the exponentially democracy focused growing political parties in Syria? Or the Lebanese government's protests against Hezbollah? And so on? Wake up already.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Got it on and waiting. Let's see what President Obama has to say. I know what I'd say.
    He'll chicken out.


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    He'll chicken out.
    He didn't chicken out and Repeatedly backed the rights of the people to demonstrate peacefully.
    and recalled his Cairo speech that a govt should rule by Consent Not Coercion.

    Disappointing was his call for "Dialogue" between the [Coercive] govt and people.

    Tricky position he's in. He's Prez.
    If Mubarrak maintains power- having called for his overthrow.....
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Well I think it was pathetic but it should be no less than expected tbh.

    Even if Mubarak stays, this is just delaying the inevitable. I don't think those in ME will forget the difference of reaction to the Iran/Egypt protest and I don't know if you were watching Al Jazeera. But the people must be pissed off considering many of teh tear gas and weapons used against them were made in US ... /facepalm


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Um...yes western thinker. And before you shut down and behave simply, pay attention.

    You are welcome to read a book or two on the subject. They have all been unified under a religion for over a thousand years and all have surrendered to a certain Arab theme of governance and prescription. Of course, we could all pretend that history is absolutely wrong and that these unnatural borders actually mean something to the local people. Or we could choose to open our eyes and witness the region's behaviors since the most significant event in their recent history occurred. For you, Iraq was just a local war. For them, it was a civilizational awakening. But maybe all these social stresses and pressures under these oppressive governments throughout the region since 2003 have been about nothing at all.

    Iraq is not exactly what they are showing to want to emulate. Speaking out and demanding something better is. The better Iraq gets the more the regions populations want for themselves. "If they can do it, then we can do it." And this is why Arab governments were and are so quick to want to see Iraq fail. Iraq's success is a threat to every single oppressive Arab (and Muslim) government throughout the region. All dictators, pharaohs, and religious regimes were put on notice in 2003. It was up to Iraqis to lead the region and the region has been responding.
    I have read a few books. I can say that it was not Iraq; but Afghanistan you are talking about. Many Arabs saw the invasion of Afghanistan and decided that they had enough of poverty and tyranny. So now they are rioting and voicing their opinions. So you are wrong about Iraq, how you like them apples??

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    He didn't chicken out and Repeatedly backed the rights of the people to demonstrate peacefully.
    and recalled his Cairo speech that a govt should rule by Consent Not Coercion.

    Disappointing was his call for "Dialogue" between the [Coercive] govt and people.

    Tricky position he's in. He's Prez.
    If Mubarrak maintains power- having called for his overthrow.....

    He kinda chickened out. He erred on the side of caution. Egypt is an ally, but we also have to encourage social change. He did little but to encourage civility, which tells the people that we care more about negative stability than positive disruption. Every single modernist in the region needs to know that we are on their side. I hope there is more to this. Bush denied Egypt their annual allowance in (2004?) until they released a liberal writer (who ironically blasts America too) for a proper trial under their own laws.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    I have read a few books. I can say that it was not Iraq; but Afghanistan you are talking about. Many Arabs saw the invasion of Afghanistan and decided that they had enough of poverty and tyranny. So now they are rioting and voicing their opinions. So you are wrong about Iraq, how you like them apples??
    Well, for one you are lying because Afghanistan has little to do with the core Arab world and poverty is exactly the Afghanistan experience for the last century. Two, I mean more than Dr. Seuss when I write of books. And three, aren't you still in time out over your obsession to attack the military repeatedly from thread to thread?

    C'mon. At least try to pretend to be able to keep up with the discussion.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well, for one you are lying because Afghanistan has little to do with the core Arab world. Two, I mean more than Dr. Seuss. And three, aren't you still in time out over your obsession to attack the military repeatedly from thread to thread?
    For one, I am no bigger liar than President Bush or President Obama, etc. Two, Dr. Seuss rules, you suck. And three, I do not attack the military. I attack the hicks that represent a large portion of the military. Maybe you are one. I don't know or care. I also attack the way many college graduates behave. Basically I attack everyone. I have no alligance to fools. Does that make me a bigger fool? Maybe.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    I guess the Arab world was just biding its time since they became inspired by Iraq becoming a democracy before it revolted...for 6 years . Clearly. It can't be any other reason. None at all. Its kind of confusing how the rioters mention Tunisia....but they never mention Iraq though.

    I wish the Egyptian people the liberal democracy and freedom they want.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    I guess the Arab world was just biding its time since they became inspired by Iraq becoming a democracy before it revolted...for 6 years . Clearly. It can't be any other reason. None at all. Its kind of confusing how the rioters mention Tunisia....but they never mention Iraq though.

    I wish the Egyptian people the liberal democracy and freedom they want.
    If that is what they want.

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