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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's review. We invade and militarily occupy a country that is of no threat to us, destabilizing the government that prevented a civil war in the country, killing those that tried to defend their country against a foreign occupation, a civil war breaks out between the warring factions that the previous government kept in check, but this all the Iraqis fault?

    Is that your reasoning?
    We invade and militarily occupy a country as a humanitarian intervention, a just war according to Just War Theory. We intentionally removed the government to build a democracy. This previous government prevented strife between the main religious groups with the heel of his boot, not something to be admired. Careful you don't glorify the insurgents as "defending their country" as they slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis; they are terrorists. A civil war breaks out, with militias from both sides, which we STOP. I wouldn't say that this is all the Iraqis fault, as we do share some responsibility for destabilizing the country as we removed the existing power structure, but the Iraqi insurgents are the ones killing the majority of their fellow Iraqis, not us. Your claim that we are responsible for killing tens of thousands of Iraqis is so far off the mark and you do it intentionally to place blame on our actions. You are a reprobate.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

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    Muslim minority?

    "Egyptian analyst Mustafa Abulhimal says this is not the Muslim Brotherhood's revolution.

    "The Muslim Brotherhood are not behind the organization of the protests," he said. "The Muslim Brotherhood are not inspiring the protests in the street. The Muslim Brotherhood are a small minority among those who are out on the street," he said.
    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood: A force to be feared? - CNN
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    We invade and militarily occupy a country as a humanitarian intervention, a just war according to Just War Theory.
    We did no such thing, the war was sold to the American people as Iraq being a threat.

    We intentionally removed the government to build a democracy
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    We intentionally removed a government that blocked Western oil from the largest oil reserves on the planet.


    This previous government prevented strife between the main religious groups with the heel of his boot, not something to be admired
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    Same way it did when we were his alley in the 80's so evidently we didn't have a problem with that.

    Careful you don't glorify the insurgents as "defending their country" as they slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis; they are terrorists.
    We unleashed them, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Any Iraqi we killed that fought against our invasion, we just call insurgents to justify our killing.

    A civil war breaks out, with militias from both sides, which we STOP
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    Our bungle, allowed the civil war to resume, and you want to take credit for stopping it? So we are now doing the same thing as Saddam did at a the cost of a trillion dollars and thousands of lives we have sacrificed for something Saddam was already doing without our support. Good plan!

    I wouldn't say that this is all the Iraqis fault, as we do share some responsibility for destabilizing the country as we removed the existing power structure,
    Ya think!

    but the Iraqi insurgents are the ones killing the majority of their fellow Iraqis, not us
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    We allowed the insurgents in!

    Your claim that we are responsible for killing tens of thousands of Iraqis is so far off the mark and you do it intentionally to place blame on our actions. You are a reprobate.
    I'm a reprobate for questioning an immoral act of aggression to people that were not a threat to us?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Egyptian analyst Mustafa Abulhimal says this is not the Muslim Brotherhood's revolution.

    "The Muslim Brotherhood are not behind the organization of the protests," he said. "The Muslim Brotherhood are not inspiring the protests in the street. The Muslim Brotherhood are a small minority among those who are out on the street," he said.
    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood: A force to be feared? - CNN
    They may not be inspiring the protests, but they're surely taking advantage of the political situation.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Just look at the reaction of some to the population of Egypt rising up against an American supported dictatorship.
    I'm seeing a reaction from countries all over the world, and fear is not among them. Concern perhaps, but that's as far as it goes. The Americans have no reason to be fearful, and aren't.


    That's what fearful people do, they blindly strike out. What I don't understand is why the bully on the block with all the marbles is so frightened.
    Obama is making inappropriate comments that could be construed as "wildly striking out" and should have waited until the dust settled before he gets drawn into the conflict but thats just dumbness on his part, not fear.

    No, its America, we spend more than the rest of the world combined on our military and many of us are still frightened little children it seems. Why is that?
    It might be best to speak for yourself here. If you are afraid , what is it you're afraid of?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We did no such thing, the war was sold to the American people as Iraq being a threat.
    You're not an American.

    That's a British thing.



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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They may not be inspiring the protests, but they're surely taking advantage of the political situation.
    As they have been locked out of the political process they would be fools not to.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're not an American.

    That's a British thing.
    Its a moral thing, the British just happen to be a bit more moral than our country as a whole.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm seeing a reaction from countries all over the world, and fear is not among them. Concern perhaps, but that's as far as it goes. The Americans have no reason to be fearful, and aren't.
    Glad to hear that, it sure sounds like fear.

    Obama is making inappropriate comments that could be construed as "wildly striking out" and should have waited until the dust settled before he gets drawn into the conflict but thats just dumbness on his part, not fear.
    What inappropriate comments?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As they have been locked out of the political process the would be fools not to.
    From their perspecctive, that's true. However, let us not deny that they are going to hold a majority of the stroke, when the new government is created.
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