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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's the problem, they're not going to be satisfied with just killing each other. They're going to want to kill some Israelis, Americans and Brits, too. Because that real danger exists, I think we are well within our rights to have a say in who's running the show.
    I doubt the current administration has the stones or inclination...but that was why i said earlier...we stand with our allies. All of them. And Allah start lining up the virgins because if they attacked our allies, I'd do them a favor and send him a WHOLE bunch of them.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Iranians are probably terrified that all the unrest in the Arab world will spread eastward.
    Iran: Riots sign of Islamic awakening - Israel News, Ynetnews

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Very good post. Do you play chess?
    Thanks.
    Speed chess these days. (1 min + 1 sec increments). No patience for long games.
    Yahoo chess if it all.

    Obama doesn't. He doesn't even know how to play checkers. That's part of the gap that shouldn't exist in the cultural background of a president of the US.
    Obama could have acted like Machiavelli instead of Captain Kangaroo. What cannot be done directly can be done indirectly. It requires the ability to play chess and to out think your opponent by several steps ahead.
    He came in very inexperienced.
    He didn't understand the economy was still tanking and promised too much.
    He thought it was just a recession. It was really an abated 1929. The Fed knew what to do this time or it would have been over before he was sworn in.

    He thought he could woo the Islamic world.
    Obama was very naive - not ready for prime time- even though a smart guy.
    He's almost up to speed now- whatever speed that is.

    Obama does not know or understand his foreign enemies. Thus, he can never out think them.

    If one understands one's enemy it is possible to use his weaknesses against him. It would have been straight forward to operate on several different levels to instill fear into the hearts of the mullahs. One only negotiates when compelled to do so for fear of the magnitude of the hurt your opponent can put on you.
    I agree here.
    He should be Blan***king Ruthless under the table.
    Putin is THE MAN in that Chess game.
    and China is eating our lunch (and dinner) on economics.
    Let me have a month.
    Hardball.

    The Theocrats in Iran have a number of weaknesses that could have been exploited. But Obama allowed the moment to pass. Now it is too late. Besides, the night of the long knives is coming.
    Obama could have used this video to transfix the world. 55 seconds in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkCv9ZNweWs
    He could have had American client states invoke a special meeting of the UN Security Council. He could have had African and Latin American countries up in arms leading the charge. He could have acted sub rosa.

    A bare majority of Iranians are ethnically Persian. There is much unrest among the Iranian Kurds, the Iranian Baluchis and the Iranian Arabs of oil rich Iranian Khuzestan next door to Iraq. He could have allowed the MEK to infiltrate. Iran imports gasoline because it can't refine enough for its own use.
    He could have done a number of things. But Obama and his foreign policy staff were too inexperienced.
    So you're suggesting he play all the ethnicities/factions agianst the govt?
    I agree.
    We should use All means possible. Use the CIA to arm everyone who is against the govt. Everything.
    Back stab/double tricks/Russian weapons. Everything.

    Now Obama is frozen into inaction because people like me will use any mistake he makes to destroy his ideology. He doesn't know how to play chess.
    He doesn't have the killer instinct.
    It's just not in his mentality, though many have said he was tough in Chicago/Illinois politics.. and that's not nothing.
    He's not mean/tough enough to to play the big boys I named above.
    He doesn't understand the economy that well, tho his advisors and Bernanke do.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There are plenty of Islamic countries (even Arab countries) that aren't breeding grounds for terrorists in the same way that Gaza and Yemen are. The best way to reduce terrorism is to eliminate the conditions in which it thrives: Desperate poverty and a weak state.
    Not being direct sponsors of terrorism shouldn't be noteworthy but in today's Muslim world it seems that it is.

    Poverty is not exclusive to Muslim run countries but contemporary terrorism is.

    I have visited some extremely poor areas of the world, as many of us have, and felt absolutely safe, and none of the people I've seen would have thought of attaching a bomb to their bodies and detonating themselves in order to murder innocent people. Only Muslims do that. According to this poverty theory the Great Depression would have become the Killing Fields.

    And of course all Muslim run countries are weak states.

    The problem is cultural, and Islam and its leaders create the culture.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Thanks.
    Speed chess these days. (1 min + 1 sec increments) No patience for long games.


    He came in very inexperienced.
    He didn't understand the economy was still tanking and promised too much.
    He thought just recession. It was really an abated 1929. The Fed knew what to do this time or it would have been over bfore he was sworn in.

    He thought he could woo the Islamic world.
    Obama was very naive-not ready for prime time- even though a smart guy.
    He's almost up to speed now- whatever speed that is.


    I agree here.
    He should be Blan***king Ruthless under the table.
    Putin is THE MAN in that Chess game.
    and China is eating our lunch (and dinner) on economics.
    Let me have a month.
    Hardball.


    So you're suggesting he play all the ethnicitis/factions agianst the govt?
    I agree.
    We use ll means possible. Use the CIA to arm everyone who is gianst the govt. Everything.


    He doesn't have the killer instinct.
    He doesn't understand the economy that ell, tho his advisors and Bernanke do.
    It's just not in his mentality, though many have said he's been tough in Chicago/Illinois politics.. and that's not nothing.
    Bingo! We have a winner.

    While Obama is book smart, smart people are a dime a dozen. Obama has been carried by others all of his life. He has never faced adversity until now. He knows how to beat Republicans who play by the rules. But Obama doesn't know how to knife fight, and he hasn't hired anybody who could teach him. And now the Reckoning is upon him and the country.

    Obama thinks he lives in the world of Kant. He is unfortunately unfamiliar with Hobbes.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I doubt the current administration has the stones or inclination...but that was why i said earlier...we stand with our allies. All of them. And Allah start lining up the virgins because if they attacked our allies, I'd do them a favor and send him a WHOLE bunch of them.
    But the question remains, will your Allies stand with you?

    They have their own problems.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But the question remains, will your Allies stand with you?

    They have their own problems.
    I dont gauge my loyalty on how someone else 'might' act.

    make no mistake...I HOPE it doesnt come to it. Just sayin...if...

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont gauge my loyalty on how someone else 'might' act.

    make no mistake...I HOPE it doesnt come to it. Just sayin...if...
    That's admirable, VanceMack, and I mean that sincerely, but if we look around to who those Allies might be, particularly in the way BHO has proven to be less than reliable, who can the US really count on anymore?

    Personally, I trust the Americans more than anyone else to try to do the right thing but I don't have the same faith in others. They don't even bother talking the talk.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's admirable, VanceMack, and I mean that sincerely, but if we look around to who those Allies might be, particularly in the way BHO has proven to be less than reliable, who can the US really count on anymore?

    Personally, I trust the Americans more than anyone else to try to do the right thing but I don't have the same faith in others. They don't even bother talking the talk.
    For that matter...who can count on the US? Agreeing to disclose UK nuke info to the Russians? WTF???

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's admirable, VanceMack, and I mean that sincerely, but if we look around to who those Allies might be, particularly in the way BHO has proven to be less than reliable, who can the US really count on anymore?

    Personally, I trust the Americans more than anyone else to try to do the right thing but I don't have the same faith in others. They don't even bother talking the talk.
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