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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Oh, get off your I-know-everything high horse. It's a tired act.

    You don't know what's going on. None of us do.

    Remember Iran? At first, it was a bunch of students protesting the Shah, and by and large, we sympathized with them. Even supported them. But eventually, when the "useful idiots" were finished, the radical Islamic heavies came in and took control, and now Iran is what it is.

    No one knows where this is headed. Mubarak is getting what he asked for, but the next face of Egypt is anyone's guess.
    Why don't you post some more about how Arabs don't like freedom? That's helpful.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why don't you post some more about how Arabs don't like freedom? That's helpful.
    Have you an ounce of integrity, or do you just throw baseless insults at people to get your rocks off? I never said that, and you know it.
    Last edited by Erod; 02-03-11 at 03:44 PM.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Have you an ounce of integrity, or do you just throw baseless insults at people to get your rocks off? I never said that, and you know it.
    Baseless? Perhaps you should pay more attention to what you post:

    Maybe, maybe not. But he can certainly look at that vast expansion of "democracy" known as the Middle East and make a deduction or two.
    This was in regards to me asking the Prof how many muslim males he actually knows.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Baseless? Perhaps you should pay more attention to what you post:



    This was in regards to me asking the Prof how many muslim males he actually knows.
    OK, and so you took that and deducted that I said Arabs don't like freedom. I guess I'm not getting it.

    The Middle East is a collection of nations run by dictatorships and/or Islamic militant regimes, but that doesn't mean there aren't Arabs who want freedom.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    OK, and so you took that and deducted that I said Arabs don't like freedom. I guess I'm not getting it.

    The Middle East is a collection of nations run by dictatorships and/or Islamic militant regimes, but that doesn't mean there aren't Arabs who want freedom.
    Who has funded and aligned themselves with most of those dictators?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Actually al-Qaeda hates the Muslim Brotherhood.
    I think al-Qaeda should open up talks with the Muslim Brotherhood so that maybe they can work out their differences.



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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Who has funded and aligned themselves with most of those dictators?
    OK, whole new direction to this, but I'll play along. Yes, the United States has (and England, France, Russia, China, Japan, etc, etc, etc). As has EVERY world power since the beginning of time. But when we decide to do something about it (Saddam), you say we need to stay out of their business and respect their sovereignty.

    The fact is, the Middle East - the cradle of civilization - still grapples with the most basic human rights that western civilization takes virtually for granted. You kind of have to deal with the lesser of two evils. This part of the world doesn't seem to grasp "democracy" or "freedom" as we do, which is why they gravitate to what they've known, dicatorships and fundamental Islamic rule.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Here's some answers to your questions in a compelling blog post from Pajamas Media:

    Michael Totten Sandmonkey’s Last Post



    To those of you who are so sure that we should continue to support Mubarak and that this will result in an Islamic theocracy...

    I would only ask...what if you're wrong?

    I do not, as a rule of thumb, pray. But my hopes are always with people, in Egypt and elsewhere, who are willing to risk everything for freedom.
    Thank you Catz, excellent blog, it really says it all.
    I doubt anyone on this forum will read it though.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    OK, whole new direction to this, but I'll play along. Yes, the United States has (and England, France, Russia, China, Japan, etc, etc, etc). As has EVERY world power since the beginning of time. But when we decide to do something about it (Saddam), you say we need to stay out of their business and respect their sovereignty.

    The fact is, the Middle East - the cradle of civilization - still grapples with the most basic human rights that western civilization takes virtually for granted. You kind of have to deal with the lesser of two evils. This part of the world doesn't seem to grasp "democracy" or "freedom" as we do, which is why they gravitate to what they've known, dicatorships and fundamental Islamic rule.

    Do you honestly, honestly, I mean looking yourself in the mirror kind of honestly, think that Bush's aim was to bring democracy to Iraq ??

    And is that what you think Arabs are all about ? Dictators/Slaves and Muslim fundementalists ?


    They don't gasp freedom as YOU do ? are you saying they are some kind of an inferior species ?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    OK, whole new direction to this, but I'll play along. Yes, the United States has (and England, France, Russia, China, Japan, etc, etc, etc). As has EVERY world power since the beginning of time. But when we decide to do something about it (Saddam), .
    That's funny...

    Are you suggesting you invaded Iraq because it had a dictator...

    I don't remember that as one of the reasons...

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