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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Iraq has grown more than the US for the past three years and grew 4.5% last year in the midst of the global recession.When you are wrong, you are wrong.
    If you're starting from basically this:





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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    To leftists we all look alike.
    This is a richly ironic post. To the far right, all brown people in the middle east look alike.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    how's that working out?
    Wasn't one of the claims of the Bush administration, which you so worship, that Iraq would lead to a greater desire for freedom in the middle east?

    Now, you're acting like it's something to fear?

    Try to be intellectually consistent.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I abhor the hypocracy and earlier posts by Catz Part Deux, Zyphlin and particularly MSgt are spot on and shatter your generalizations.

    You are also misconstruing the position of the American government. Obama has come out in support of the protesters' wishes and are working with known contacts within the Egyptian government to help - what else would you like to see us do that we aren't doing? Our best way to help is to use our relationship with the current regime to apply pressure on them to accommodate the demands of the protesters. Simply replacing Mubarak is not enough. You must replace the regime itself. It will be very hard to do.
    In all fairness to Laila, I think she's reacting to the fearmongering posts coming from Apdst, The Prof, and a few others whose hypocrisy on this issue is abundantly clear...

    Democracy is good...as long as that democracy evolves in ways that we dictate. THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY. Democracy in these countries has to be created in ways that the people of Egypt, and Iran, and Yemen, and Tunisia choose. Otherwise, it isn't democracy, because the people didn't choose. We can encourage it, and even offer to guide it and support it, but ultimately, their voices are the ones that matter. That's what democracy means.

    Is democracy scary? You bet. But it's still the best choice.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 02-03-11 at 10:11 AM.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    you mean last friday mubarak wasn't a dictator and shouldn't step down

    but things have changed since?

    stick to smut
    I guess you didn't note the date on that link before you posted it, eh? That's okay, Prof. We're here to keep you intellectually honest.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    Laila, they will try as hard as they can to interpret what's going on to fit their politics. What is happening in the Arab world changes all of the misconceptions about the Arab people.

    The truth on the ground is that the Arab world is demanding Democracy and the irony is that the countries that are rising up are those goverened by pro-Western leaders or rather dictators. Both the Democracy that the West has been promoting and the Western-invented tools such as the Internet are backfiring against the West's interests.
    The Truth is this is exactly what Bush and the 'neocons' wanted 10 years ago.
    The Truth is that it has in fact worked. (the sourest of pills to swallow for the left/others).
    Though demography/hunger/poverty were also causes of riots and will NOT Be cured by democracy alone. Egyptians, Yemenis, etc, will still live with the consequences of high/impossibe-to-support fertility. ie, Gaza's haven't though Hamas is supported by some countries & the UNRWA which abates their unsustainable Birth rate.

    The Truth is YOU/Mira has said that Islam needs a Reformation and if/since the Muslim Brotherhood gets effective control or is even the majority party, YOU get 'backfired' on just like everyone else who cares about a Liberal/Secular democracy.
    I believe Gardener made a post to the that effect/liberal-ideals-first earlier.

    And I made several posts in the string Acknowledging ALL truly elected democatic govts, if not wanting to shower them all with Aid or weaponry.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Wasn't one of the claims of the Bush administration, which you so worship
    i worship w-stands-for-what's-his-name?

    LOL!

    Try to be intellectually consistent.
    stick to porn

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I guess you didn't note the date on that link before you posted it, eh?
    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your article is dated 1/27.
    i know, that's when mubarak wasn't a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The situation has evolved considerably since that point in time.
    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    We're here to keep you intellectually honest.
    stick to porn
    Last edited by The Prof; 02-03-11 at 11:19 AM.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    The Truth is this is exactly what Bush and the 'neocons' wanted 10 years ago.
    the kristols, et al, craved a collapse of the reliably non threatening (to israel) egyptian regime and the creation of chaos thruout the region, opening the door to islamic fundamentalists and jihadists from morocco to yemen?

    astonishing
    Last edited by The Prof; 02-03-11 at 11:29 AM.

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