A scene of violent chaos in Cairo - CNN.com
FT.com / Middle East / Politics & Society - Egypt divided by violence
Demonstrations turn violent as pro-Mubarak crowd clashes with protesters
gibbs---"if any of the violence was instigated by the govt, it should stop immediately"
Last edited by mbig; 02-02-11 at 10:15 PM.
I'm personally sick of not being able to dunk a basketball because of racism.
You know nothing about Muslim/Arab dictators.
2 key things Mubarak speech did not confirm. 8 Months to let things calm down to then instate his own son like some of King and secondly constitutional changes will then be facing the Parliament from the last election which was rigged! All Mubarak will say is that constitutional changes got rejected by Parliament so nothing they can do.
Ignoring the fact that it is the security forces that have infiltrated the Pro Mubarak side, their ID cards found on the attacks bodies. The fact that for a week the Anti Government has been peaceful
And do not attempt to speak for all Egyptian Coptic's nor does your friend. A Muslim will sit in presidency no matter what because Egypt is a MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY. That is akin to asking for a Muslim to sit and lead Poland
This is not a religious revolution but one for all Egyptians.
Egyptian Christians forming a ring to protect the Muslims whilst they were praying from the police. The same way Muslims formed a human shield around the Church to protect it from a terrorist attack.
The majority of Egyptians do not want an Islamic State. The Muslim Brotherhood’s popularity was, and remains to not be from the result of widespread support for its ideology rather it's moral principles and its extensive social services network, and the aid it provides to the needy Egyptians. THAT is where it's popularity is based on and last election the Muslim Brotherhood had alot of Christian support as well. The misinformation pouring out of US makes me so angry. Your media is ****ed up.
Mubarak has blood on his hands and all I hope now is for his death. He deserves no less for attempting to cause these clashes. Now there is a shift in an opinion to the Army. They were once seen as protectors, now they stood back and let the police men shoot the Anti Government Protesters. ****ing disgusting
Last edited by Laila; 02-02-11 at 11:07 PM.
Democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep willing to contest the vote.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this yet because this thread is big as hell but--does anyone else think that Bush's "Spread democracy in the middle east" is indirectly working now in a totally ****ed up way?
"We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan
I have to say that I'm kind of shocked to see that Americans would decry the people uprising to obtain freedom and democracy for themselves. This country has always had a foreign policy that freedom and democracy should spread throughout the Middle East and around the world in countries where the people are oppressed by tyrants and dictators. We as a nation cheered for the Iranian demonstrators and hoped they would succeed. We're thrilled to see Tunisian reforms, forced by the people themselves.
And yet we don't want these things for the people of Egypt, who have shed blood for the opportunity to be free? Come on. That position itself offends me, frankly. We do not have a right to keep people poor and oppressed just because we are allied with their personal dictator. We just don't. It's immoral, dang it.
I think Mubarak will never give up power, and will sic the military on the demonstrations. I think they will fail to force him from power and grab their own freedom. But it makes me very, very sad for them. All people deserve freedom and free elections. All. People. It's extraordinary to see Americans saying, in effect, "No freedom for them. It's not in our best interest." Bah.
The truth on the ground is that the Arab world is demanding Democracy and the irony is that the countries that are rising up are those goverened by pro-Western leaders or rather dictators. Both the Democracy that the West has been promoting and the Western-invented tools such as the Internet are backfiring against the West's interests.
"True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance." -- Akhenaton
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