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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, what do you think we should be doing?
    I think that we should be making public statements in support of freedom and democracy and privately urging Mubarak to get the hell out tomorrow. Which is, I think, exactly what we're doing.

    Score one for Obama. I bet that just galls you, doesn't it?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think the fact that conservatives are "all over the place" on this shows that the deluded and ignorant notion that conservatives are a bunch of mind numbed robots taking cues from "Faux News" and Rush Limbaugh is rather off base on a whole.
    This may indeed be true, or it may mean that a lot of people, Faux and Limbaux included, aren't sure which way to fall yet. From a conservative point of view there is no clear position to take on Egypt. Whichever perspective you use - Realpolitik, Neo-con, isolationist, Atlanticist - the dilemma of having to choose between those advocating a style of Western democracy, and those advocating support for a key western ally is an almost impossible decision to take.

    For those of us on the left, it's a little easier, but still not THAT clear cut if you maintain significant worries about the strength of the Islamicists.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think the fact that conservatives are "all over the place" on this shows that the deluded and ignorant notion that conservatives are a bunch of mind numbed robots taking cues from "Faux News" and Rush Limbaugh is rather off base on a whole.
    Or it could be they haven't figured out what the conservative position should be yet. Many conservatives on these forums are in fact mind numbed robots taking cues from Rush, Glenn, Sarah, and Fox news. If you disagree you are a liberal.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that we should be making public statements in support of freedom and democracy and privately urging Mubarak to get the hell out tomorrow. Which is, I think, exactly what we're doing.

    Score one for Obama.
    Purdy much what I said. If you'll recall, I never said anything about doing nothing.

    However, I don't think we should be urging Mubarack out anymore than we should be urging anyone else in.

    I bet that just galls you, doesn't it?
    I bet it galls you that it doesn't. huh?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Purdy much what I said. If you'll recall, I never said anything about doing nothing.

    However, I don't think we should be urging Mubarack out anymore than we should be urging anyone else in.
    You never said anything about doing nothing? Your glib tongue puts us all to shame.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that we should be making public statements in support of freedom and democracy and privately urging Mubarak to get the hell out tomorrow. Which is, I think, exactly what we're doing.

    Score one for Obama. I bet that just galls you, doesn't it?
    My one thing I'd say on top of that would be urging, after the fact, for the Egyptian people to take the necessary steps to actually instill a workable democracy that is likely to remain a democracy and letting them know that IF they wish it and request it that we'll lend aid in taking such steps for their fledgling democracy. Essentially, once this happens, in front and behind the scenes work to try and urge an actual legitimate working democracy rather than a setup where within a few years they're just back to being under a "Democracy in Name Only" only this time one that is problematic to our goals. I think we should also definitely keep an eye on the country and take whatever needed diplomatic steps may be required in the future should it begin to look like Egypt begins to go down that path rather than the path of legitimate democracy.

    That said, those are all actions I think we should be taking after the revolt...for the time being, I think we're doing essentially the right thing. I think we could come out a bit more strongly in support of democracy/oppositeion to Mubarak currently, but overall our general seeming strategy at this time is sound imho.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Or it could be they haven't figured out what the conservative position should be yet. Many conservatives on these forums are in fact mind numbed robots taking cues from Rush, Glenn, Sarah, and Fox news. If you disagree you are a liberal.
    You're being just a tad bit hypocritical.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Or it could be they haven't figured out what the conservative position should be yet. Many conservatives on these forums are in fact mind numbed robots taking cues from Rush, Glenn, Sarah, and Fox news. If you disagree you are a liberal.
    Well, thank you for illustrating my point wonderfully

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that we should be making public statements in support of freedom and democracy and privately urging Mubarak to get the hell out tomorrow. Which is, I think, exactly what we're doing.

    Score one for Obama. I bet that just galls you, doesn't it?
    Mubarak should call for a special election as soon as possible while he still has some power. If he just leaves now even more chaos could result. Mubarak has the opportunity to be a hero instead of a goat.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your glib tongue puts us all to shame.
    Tongue?

    Is Apdst licking out his replies AGAIN?
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