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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It's an idiom that implies that all men are basically the same. Thus, even though Apdst had zero experience with the shot-callers in whatever middle eastern hellhole he served in, to him, all towelheads are basically identical.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    You calling conservatives that label other people liberals ridiculous? It's just funny that when it comes to this crisis conservatives are all over the place on what they think should be done. Most of the time they are pretty well united. It's usually their way or the liberal way.
    I think conservatives that define anyone who disagrees with them on any individual issue, regardless of the reasons for it, as "liberal" as ridiculous. I think conservatives that think every liberal things exactly the same way on various issues, or that anyone who comes to a certain conclussion on an issue, is a liberal is ridiculous.

    I think the fact that conservatives are "all over the place" on this shows that the deluded and ignorant notion that conservatives are a bunch of mind numbed robots taking cues from "Faux News" and Rush Limbaugh is rather off base on a whole.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It's in Israel's best interest to promote democracy as well. If it is a historic truth that our security has always relied upon the health of foriegn nations/regions, then it is certainly true for Israel, who is surrounded by dictatorships and twisted regimes.
    I think that they've fallen prey to the myth of short-term stability at any cost. So, making a deal with the devil would be fine if he promises that he'll behave.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think the splintering is largely occurring between those conservatives who consider Israel our primary ally in the region versus those who are more pragmatic and believe that we are best served by being true to our principles, regardless of the short term outcome.
    Conservative here who thinks Israel is our primary ally in the region and who thinks we're best served by being true to our principles based on the realistic observation and estimations regarding our short term outcome compared to our potential long term gain

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Is this an American idiom I've never come across before? What the hell does that mean?
    It means that Obama is no more, or less of a man, than I am. Being president doesn't elevate him to some super-human stature.

    My point to Tucker, is that although I may not have learned of Arab culture from men in power, I still learned of it from men of the region which doesn't make my opinion any less valid.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's not much we can do. Obama could end up looking like a dumbass, either way and I think the fewer opinions he has, the better the United States will be.
    So, in other words, you have zero ideas and a lot of uninformed opinions about Arabs.

    Duly noted.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Conservative here who thinks Israel is our primary ally in the region and who thinks we're best served by being true to our principles based on the realistic observation and estimations regarding our short term outcome compared to our potential long term gain
    Stop breaking my paradigms.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that they've fallen prey to the myth of short-term stability at any cost. So, making a deal with the devil would be fine if he promises that he'll behave.
    Which is why we shouldn't be trying to open a dialogue with the Muslim Brotherhood, either.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, in other words, you have zero ideas and a lot of uninformed opinions about Arabs.

    Duly noted.
    Ok, what do you think we should be doing?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which is why we shouldn't be trying to open a dialogue with the Muslim Brotherhood, either.
    Yes, because, God knows, not talking to people is super effective.
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