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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A week from now, with no let up in the violence and the situation will become untenable. At that point, the United States will be criticized for not getting involved.
    Oh, really? What do you believe we should be doing, in practical terms, Apdst?

    I've seen a lot of fear-mongering from you, but very little in the way of ideas or solutions.

    Or, are you waiting for talking points from Glenn/Rush?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think there is very little chance you were dealing with people who are the types who end up in a position of real power when you were in the region.
    No, but they all put their pants on one leg at a time and grew up in the same culture.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, but they all put their pants on one leg at a time and grew up in the same culture.
    Really? I thought you told us that they all wore skirts.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Complete, total agreement in every way. We accomplish the most by remaining true to our founding principles.

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    Most of the world knows this, which is why they are quick to be dissapointed when we don't practice what we preach. They look to us, no matter their admittance. I believe that this is unfair because it relies on us not living in the same decrepit world they live in, but it does account for much of the anti-Americanism that occurs from event to event. In this new age of information over load, we can no longer get away with some of the imperfections we have practiced along the way. It is funny that our highest point of "moralhigh ground" came when we were just emerging from isolationalism into this outside world. The battle, for Americans at least, seems to be pitting our morality against what the world supplies against us and winning out.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, but they all put their pants on one leg at a time
    Is this an American idiom I've never come across before? What the hell does that mean?
    "The crisis will end when fear changes sides" - Pablo Iglesias Turrión

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Is this an American idiom I've never come across before? What the hell does that mean?
    It's an idiom that implies that all men are basically the same. Thus, even though Apdst had zero experience with the shot-callers in whatever middle eastern hellhole he served in, to him, all towelheads are basically identical.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think the splintering is largely occurring between those conservatives who consider Israel our primary ally in the region versus those who are more pragmatic and believe that we are best served by being true to our principles, regardless of the short term outcome.

    It's in Israel's best interest to promote democracy as well. If it is a historic truth that our security has always relied upon the health of foriegn nations/regions, then it is certainly true for Israel, who is surrounded by dictatorships and twisted regimes.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Oh, really? What do you believe we should be doing, in practical terms, Apdst?

    I've seen a lot of fear-mongering from you, but very little in the way of ideas or solutions.

    Or, are you waiting for talking points from Glenn/Rush?
    There's not much we can do. Obama could end up looking like a dumbass, either way and I think the fewer opinions he has, the better the United States will be.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Oh, really? What do you believe we should be doing, in practical terms, Apdst?

    I've seen a lot of fear-mongering from you, but very little in the way of ideas or solutions.

    Or, are you waiting for talking points from Glenn/Rush?
    i'm interested in what should do, as well. i think we should keep the hell out of it, for once.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Riots erupt in Egypt as protesters demand end to Mubarak regime

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    You have a point. FOX has been leaning more and more towards supporting Mubarak in light of a possible Muslim Brotherhood takeover. This is a lack of vision and a lack of true wisdom, which is proof that people's idea of the "NeoCon" has been wrong all along.
    Actually, strangely enough, it just furthers what my view of a Neo-conservative is. A form of conservatism that see's the government not as something that should be minimized, but as a tool that should be used...domestically and internationally...to institute the moral and legislative based ideas you have that you believe is best for the countries longevity and security and that said ideals are more important than growth of government, reduction of liberty, or cost in dollars. In this instance, the "threat of islamofascism" is to them a greater hinderance to their goals than the "spreading of democracy" is a boon, and as such they are shifting their view point to accomodate.

    To me, a neo-conservative is one who has little care for the governmental and fiscal sides of conservatism unless it suits them, an absolute extremist and somewhat distorted conservative view when it comes to the pillar of defense, and a similarly twisted and extreme view with regards to the social side all unified by a belief that ignoring, or outright rejection, of the first two pillars I stated in advancement of the latter two is worth while.

    I think in general people are in the right ballpark with how they use the word Neo-Con when its used as anything other than a mindless insult. The problem is that, one, like any political philosophy there is some wiggle room and two, most of the time people just use it as a mindless insult.

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