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    Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spending

    Obama Will Use State of the Union to Call for Five-Year Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spending - FoxNews.com

    President Obama will call for a five-year freeze on non-security discretionary spending during his State of the Union address to Congress late Tuesday, a White House official told Fox News.
    However...
    PolitiFact | Obama criticized McCain on a spending freeze

    Obama's Republican opponent in the election, Sen. John McCain, supported a spending freeze. In fact, what he proposed sounds an awful lot like the one Obama is suggesting...

    We reviewed the transcripts of the three presidential debates and found McCain and Obama jousted over a spending freeze each time...

    In the first debate... Obama replied, "The problem with a spending freeze is you're using a hatchet where you need a scalpel...

    In the second debate... Obama, on the other hand, said it was important "for the president to set a tone that says all of us are going to contribute, all of us are going to make sacrifices, and it means that, yes, we may have to cut some spending, although I disagree with Sen. McCain about an across-the-board freeze. That's an example of an unfair burden-sharing. That's using a hatchet to cut the federal budget."...

    Finally, the third debate... Obama: "Well, look, I think that we do have a disagreement about an across-the-board spending freeze. It sounds good. It's proposed periodically. It doesn't happen. And, in fact, an across-the-board spending freeze is a hatchet, and we do need a scalpel, because there are some programs that don't work at all..."
    Obama's answers, on the other hand, never gave any indication that he would embrace the idea of a spending freeze, something that he is doing now.

    So we don't find Bernstein's explanation convincing.

    We give Obama a Full Flop
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    I anxiously await the liberals who were horrified by an across the board freeze, to show their horror now.


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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Obama Will Use State of the Union to Call for Five-Year Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spending - FoxNews.com



    However...
    PolitiFact | Obama criticized McCain on a spending freeze






    I anxiously await the liberals who were horrified by an across the board freeze, to show their horror now.


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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Obama Will Use State of the Union to Call for Five-Year Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spending - FoxNews.com



    However...
    PolitiFact | Obama criticized McCain on a spending freeze






    I anxiously await the liberals who were horrified by an across the board freeze, to show their horror now.


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    Freeze? After he's spent like a drunk who won the lottery? Christ... Obama IS Mr. Creosote.

    Let's get real... freeze is not enough... we need to cut and gut this megafat beast before it explodes.

    Freeze... ROTFLOL. He must think he's dealing with the little league.



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    I'm cool with it. I have no problem with saying that Medicare and Social Security are out of control, that we need to cut the budget, and that entitlements are the main culprit. I'd support cuts too, but it probably won't go down well with most of the public when u take away their Medicare and Social Security. However why limit it to non-security related spending? Our national security apparatus is bloated and inefficient just like everything else. Not to mention we have too many generals, and money spent on consultants and contractors by the DoD is ridiculous. I don't have a problem with cutting away all that fat, there's a lot of **** we can get rid of without decreasing national security.

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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Ya know, this would be laughable i it wasn't so serious.

    "I know, that were uh, spending too much, so uh, well I think. I think the best thing we could do is uh, freeze spending!"

    How about a 10% across the board cut in spending for the each the next 5 years?
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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ya know, this would be laughable i it wasn't so serious.

    "I know, that were uh, spending too much, so uh, well I think. I think the best thing we could do is uh, freeze spending!"

    How about a 10% across the board cut in spending for the each the next 5 years?
    Wouldn't a freeze mean no cuts could be made in the next 5 yrs?
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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Wouldn't a freeze mean no cuts could be made in the next 5 yrs?
    Yep. And tie the hands of our next President in 2013. Well, not really, just make it a bit harder politically.
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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    I think this from the story sums it up:

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell spokesman Don Stewart expressed cautious optimism about the proposal.
    "At first blush, it appears the president has realized his budget requests have been too big. We'll wait to see the details," Stewart said.
    Freeze?? I'd like to hear we're cutting or eliminating 1)gov programs that don't work. 2)Tax credits and subsidies to big energy, and farms.

    And why is it just non-security? How about freezing or cutting any unnecessary or wasteful military spending?

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    LOL!

    obama calls for a freeze, republicans demand return to 08 spending levels

    House GOP endorses pre-Obama spending levels - Yahoo! News

    we'll fight this one out on the floor and IN THE HEADLINES

    we're excitedly looking forward to it

    the raising of the debt ceiling is gonna be another opportunity to PROFILE our differences

    as will the expiration on march 4 of the most recent appropriations, passed when reid acquiesced his obscene omnibus during the duck

    the states are gonna be comin to dc one day for permission to renegotiate all their upside down obligations---more opportunity for tea drinker DEMANDS

    ie, obama's WAY TOO LATE to the party, folks

    he's PIVOTING

    yet he's STILL way behind the curve

    what do YOU think the voters were expressing on tsunami tuesday

    apparently, obama heard

    but he just can't bring himself to go there

    besides, his base would abuse him if he did

    enjoy the speech tonight, all

    and remember, INVESTMENT spending is NOT the same thing as a STIMULUS

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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I think this from the story sums it up:



    2)Tax credits and subsidies to big energy
    I thought he already did that.


    and farms.
    If you like foreign oil, you're gonna love foreign food.

    And why is it just non-security? How about freezing or cutting any unnecessary or wasteful military spending?
    Along with bull**** entitlement programs, too. Right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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